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Old 07-18-2019, 01:54 PM
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Schmidt Rubin 1889/11 .22



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Good afternoon,
I'm looking for some information on exactly what I have and if is common or unusual. I recently purchased a Schmidt Rubin 1889/11 rifle that was advertised as chambered in .22lr. Upon looking at the rifle it has a .22lr sub-caliber kit installed with electro-penciled numbers matching on the barrel/chamber, bolt handle and bolt sleeve (439). The bolt itself is unnumbered and has a .22 front and extractor pinned to it. As for the rifle, the serial number dates to 1893 with a 1911 barrel that slugs to .308 and a 2000m 1911 rear sight. It has the 1911 pistol grip grafted to the stock and a piece about 1 3/4" added to the butt with a K31 butt plate numbered to match the rifle. The length of pull is 13". Also, when I removed the butt plate there were the ends of dowels present. If this was an arsenal repair, do the dowels cover screw heads or are the dowels used to secure the wood in stead of screws? The lower band number does not match the receiver/barrel number nor does the rear sight assembly, although all of it's numbers match. All of the rifles other parts have the last two or three numbers of the serial number including the stock (stamped and in pencil) and hand guard 172XXX. Could this rifle be an Armory built match rifle or one that was sold and built at a later date? As for the centerfire side of this rifle, can I install a centerfire firing pin and bolt instead of purchasing a complete bolt and where can I find a spring and follower for a 1911magazine?
Thanks for any help and information, Joe
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Old 07-18-2019, 04:43 PM
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This thread may provide you a few answers. https://www.rimfirecentral.com/forum....php?t=1157073
Can you post a few pictures?

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It sounds like an interesting gun. I would definitely leave it as-is and not be looking for parts to convert back and forth to 7.5mm.

You can find compete 1889 for real short money, due to the low pressure ammo limitation. I dontr know what you have there as the base rifle. You say made in 1893, so that predates the 1896/11. It does not matter. My opinion is the same, keep the rare gun alone and buy another one if you want to shoot 7.5mm

I like the K31 for 2x the money. But; that is me.

Swiss parts seem hard to come by. I think the survival rate was high. Very few junkers to part out. Remaining neutral has it advantages.
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Old 07-18-2019, 06:31 PM
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I can get the center fire parts from Numrich for about $60.00. The barrel on the rifle is K11 spec so if I use .308" bullets and keep pressures at .30-40 levels I'll be ok. If I buy a 1889 then I have to get into paper patching and with this rifle I was thinking I could get two rifles for the price of one. As for pictures, I am not tech savvy. I need some time to set up a photo account, take pictures and get them posted.
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Sounds reasonable enough.
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