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Old 02-17-2021, 10:06 PM
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Have another couple days coming up where I'll have time to sit and watch some videos.

Grew up commercial fishing and have fished from Ventura to the aleutians. Rode out my worst typhoon in 19, kinda made me interested in storm stories and such. Over the last year have mostly covered all youtube has to offer as far as documentaries.

Looking for some reccomendations for other documentaries to look up? I've enjoyed watching other folks videos a lot more than doing it myself
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See if you can find a copy of the Victory at Sea series. About 20 one hour shows on various aspects of (mostly) Navy action in WWII. Some are more interesting than others. One shot of a carrier taking green water over the bow in a cyclone in the Pacific.
I rode out a hurricane in 1971 or 72 on the USNS Harkness of the coast of Virginia. 45 degree rolls!
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Old 02-18-2021, 02:08 AM
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Smithsonian on CBS all access has a series, Disaster at Sea that's good. It can be purchased by the month to watch on a smart TV and I think a mobile device and computer. Binge watch and cancel or look for the free introduction offer then cancel.
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Old 02-19-2021, 05:39 PM
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See if you can find a copy of the Victory at Sea series. About 20 one hour shows on various aspects of (mostly) Navy action in WWII. Some are more interesting than others. One shot of a carrier taking green water over the bow in a cyclone in the Pacific.
I rode out a hurricane in 1971 or 72 on the USNS Harkness of the coast of Virginia. 45 degree rolls!
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Looked this one up, turns out my watch history says I've watched most of them

The typhoon was no fun, broke a lot of stuff. Had I not made it to a bay probably wouldn't be typing this. Crew said I never left the wheel for 33 hrs, the wind kept me in the zone and a lot of adrenaline. Was a lot less traumatic for them then me, as I had very clear purpose.

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Smithsonian on CBS all access has a series, Disaster at Sea that's good. It can be purchased by the month to watch on a smart TV and I think a mobile device and computer. Binge watch and cancel or look for the free introduction offer then cancel.
Hmm, looked in to it. Going to to be in poor internet connectivity and won't be able to stream over 240p Maybe my next revovery period....
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Check out "The Perfect Storm" (2000).

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I was assigned temporary duty as an AIC on a destroyer during the 1967 Six-Day War. We were escorting a US electronic intelligence ship patrolling the eastern Med following the "mistaken" Israeli attack on the USS Liberty (another US electronic intelligence ship off the coast of Egypt). I was sharing AIC duty with a CPO to call in defensive air strikes if necessary. During that time there was an extraordinary storm that went on for about two days. The bow was pitching 40 to 50 feet and we were taking green water over the bridge, with 45 degree rolls. I'm not sure there was anyone -- even the old salts -- who didn't get sea sick, at least with borderline nausea or worse. It was unreal. I was really happy to return to the carrier I served on!

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There’s a good clip of the Norwegian Dawn getting smacked by a rouge wave headed to Bermuda. My pops was onboard and he said, “about as bad as coming home from Korea in a Typhoon.”
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The Edmond Fitzgerald.

https://www.documentarytube.com/vide...und-fitzgerald

Not at sea, but I bet it felt like it!

The legend lives on from the Chippewa on down of the big lake they call 'Gitche Gumee'
The lake it is said, never gives up her dead when the skies of November turn gloomy
With a load of iron ore 26,000 tons more than the Edmund Fitzgerald weighed empty
That good ship and true was a 'bone to be chewed' when the gales of November came early
The ship was the pride of the American side, coming back from some mill in Wisconsin
As the big freighters go, it was bigger than most with a crew and good captain well seasoned

Concluding some terms with a couple of steel firms when they left fully loaded for Cleveland
Then later that night when the ship's bell rang, could it be the north wind they'd been feelin'?

The wind in the wires made a tattle-tale sound when the wave broke over the railin'
And every man knew, as the captain did too, 'twas the witch of November come stealin'
The dawn came late and the breakfast had to wait when the gales of November came slashin'
When afternoon came it was freezing rain in the face of a hurricane west wind

When suppertime came, the old cook came on deck sayin' "Fellas, it's too rough to feed ya"
At seven p.m. a main hatchway caved in, he said, "Fellas, it's been good to know ya"
The captain wired in he had water comin' in and the good ship and crew was in peril
And later that night when his lights went out of sight came the wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald

Does anyone know where the love of God goes when the waves turn the minutes to hours?
The searchers all say they'd have made Whitefish Bay if they'd put 15 more miles behind her
They might have split up or they might have capsized, they may have broke deep and took water
And all that remains is the faces and the names of the wives and the sons and the daughters

Lake Huron rolls, Superior sings in the rooms of her ice-water mansion
Old Michigan steams like a young man's dreams, the islands and bays are for sportsmen
And farther below, Lake Ontario takes in what Lake Erie can send her
And the iron boats go as the mariners all know with the gales of November remembered

In a musty old hall in Detroit they prayed in the Maritime Sailors' Cathedral
The church bell chimed 'til it rang 29 times for each man on the Edmund Fitzgerald
The legend lives on from the Chippewa on down of the big lake they call 'Gitche Gumee'
Superior, they said, never gives up her dead when the gales of November come early




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Old 02-20-2021, 12:56 AM
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Check out "The Perfect Storm" (2000).



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I was assigned temporary duty as an AIC on a destroyer during the 1967 Six-Day War. We were escorting a US electronic intelligence ship patrolling the eastern Med following the "mistaken" Israeli attack on the USS Liberty (another US electronic intelligence ship off the coast of Egypt). I was sharing AIC duty with a CPO to call in defensive air strikes if necessary. During that time there was an extraordinary storm that went on for about two days. The bow was pitching 40 to 50 feet and we were taking green water over the bridge, with 45 degree rolls. I'm not sure there was anyone -- even the old salts -- who didn't get sea sick, at least with borderline nausea or worse. It was unreal. I was really happy to return to the carrier I served on!

Doug
There are certain size boats that really put guys over the top. Have seen a lot of folks who get really sick on the 375 foot ferry but can survive for months on a 58 footer in horrid weather eating fried chicken. That was a wild conflict, allies fighting allies. There is a level of physical trauma that comes with being so absolutely powerless in a seaway, hard to describe to someone who hasn't experienced it.

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There’s a good clip of the Norwegian Dawn getting smacked by a rouge wave headed to Bermuda. My pops was onboard and he said, “about as bad as coming home from Korea in a Typhoon.”
Some pretty wild cruise ship videos, as well as some north sea supply vessel footage.

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The Edmond Fitzgerald.

https://www.documentarytube.com/vide...und-fitzgerald

Not at sea, but I bet it felt like it!



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Did a Fitzgerald research kick a few years back. That level of sea state in a shallow water lake would be wild. Still blows my mind how big a boat could go down so fast, but it was a different time.
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Guess you would have to ask the cigarette boat racers about how rough the little Great Lakes are. Wave cycle and coming in from all directions just rips your guts out. I’ve been across from Ludington to Manitowoc on the Badger car ferry in the middle of the night in 10-12’ at end of season, October. Half the crew were laid up seasick. The Captain even commented when walking by to rear control backing up to dock,”quite a ride”.

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The Great Lakes:
A collection of five freshwater lakes located in North America, have been sailed upon since at least the 17th century, and thousands of ships have been sunk while traversing them. Many of these ships were never found, so the exact number of shipwrecks in the Lakes is unknown; the Great Lakes Shipwreck Museum approximates 6,000 ships and 30,000 lives lost,[1] while historian and mariner Mark Thompson has estimated that the total number of wrecks is likely more than 25,000.[2] In the period between 1816, when the Invincible was lost, to the sinking of the Edmund Fitzgerald in 1975, the Whitefish Point area alone has claimed at least 240 ships.[2]
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Anybody suggest Titanic?
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I saved a woman from NM in the Keys, FL when she rolled her rental kayak and hanging on for (a long time by her definition of a long time) while being swept out to sea on the outgoing tide. Her phone didn't survive the initial dunking thus her prayers unanswered but for me. I was on a 17' flats boat fishing. Her version of the tale would be much more exciting but for her being dumber than a mud fence.
There was a Boy Scouts Camp a mile off so when I heard her very faint cries I thought it was the kids playing. She's lucky, I wouldn't have heard her with these ears now.

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shallow sheltered inland waters separated from open ocean by Highway 1 known for often exciting fishing with light tackle
bridges spread along the Keys permit access to the open ocean for both fishermen and various young fish to grow up

ETA- she asked to use my phone whereas I thought she was going to call family or a friend. Nope, she punched in 9-1-1 and then more fun began!
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Did a Fitzgerald research kick a few years back. That level of sea state in a shallow water lake would be wild. Still blows my mind how big a boat could go down so fast, but it was a different time.
The documentary I watched suggested that when the hatches on the deck became compromised, the ship filled with water. When the bow and stern straddled the gully between waves, it was too much stress and the ship cracked in two and went down fast.

I reckon no one will ever know except the 29 who went down with it.


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National Geographic`s has a documentary series called Drain the Ocean.
It is interesting.
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National Geographic`s has a documentary series called Drain the Ocean.
It is interesting.
OK, where do they put the water?

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