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Old 10-08-2010, 11:59 AM
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Picked up a new Mark XXII yesterday during a gun buying spree. Got it cleaned up last night. Pretty nice looking rifle. Got the trigger adjusted pretty nice so now all that's left to do is stick a scope on it and shoot. I think I'm going to move my V24 over from my 1712 to this one and put a 6x20EFR Leo on the Annie.

Anyway, here's a few crappy photos... They don't do it justice but it was late and I was tired. It's not as nice as the one 9fingers just got, but I'm happy with it.










Again, sorry for the photos... they really don't do it justice.

Have a good day.

Kenny
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Old 10-08-2010, 07:34 PM
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She's a keeper alright. Beautiful gun! Best part is, it will shoot as good as it looks. Thanks for sharing.
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Old 10-08-2010, 08:31 PM
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Anyway, here's a few crappy photos... They don't do it justice but it was late and I was tired. It's not as nice as the one 9fingers just got, but I'm happy with it.

Oh I don't know about that, yours is beautiful also! Best of luck with it.
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Old 10-09-2010, 06:39 AM
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Oh I don't know about that, yours is beautiful also! Best of luck with it.
Thanks. They really are pretty rifles. I've always been partial to the more glossy look on stocks. When I refinish one, I always make it as glossy as possible. This rifle really is a nice rifle. I'm hoping it's more accurate than my CZ's, if so, I'm ahead of the game because all of mine are very accurate. If not, at least it looks nice and I can always play around with it. For it's intended purpose, it doesn't have to be one hole accurate.

I'm actually anxious to see how it does in a Silhouette match. It's lighter than my 1712 and I want to see if this gun will feel better in that setting.

It will be getting shot Sunday evening before a match. If it does well, I may try using it during the match. If not, I've got all day Monday to play with it and see how well it will do.

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Old 10-09-2010, 07:28 AM
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Kenny, I have only had time to do about 25 rounds through mine and it was very good and a pleasure to hold and shoot (as well as look at!) but so far the indications were it would not match my CZ American or Ultra Lux. But after only 25 rounds I really don't know. I don't know if I believe in the "barrel break in theory" but am willing to give them all time to "season" and see how they do after I get 500 or 1,000 rounds through them. My main problem is that I have too many guns I want to shoot and not enough time, so I don't get to spend enough time with any one to get real conclusions. I had 11 kinds of ammo in my bag yesterday and tried most of them in my Ultra Lux, one of 3 I was shooting, so you can imagine that my scientific method for testing rifles and ammo needs a little work! But I did have loads of fun and shot probably the best group of my life. Will post a pic later if I have time. Good luck in your match!
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Old 10-09-2010, 01:10 PM
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Darker tip wood itís not African mahogany. Is the butt pad red or black color? It is possible this is a lower serial number gun.

Please donít take my curiosity over the wood or pad as being picky or criticism this is the least of my intentions.

All of the Weatherby Mark Twenty Two bolt actions are fantastic looking guns!

Iím happy Ed Weatherby has chosen his fathers inspired style, stock design for the Mark XXII talk about good taste!

The Mark XXII comes from Anschutz equipped with the Extra Heavy Trigger Spring (Heaviest of four available springs). I hope when a comparison
is made of the CZís versus the MKXXIIís shooting ability that both guns are set at the same trigger pull weight and pre travel distance.
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Old 10-09-2010, 02:20 PM
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Darker tip wood itís not African mahogany. Is the butt pad red or black color? It is possible this is a lower serial number gun.

Please donít take my curiosity over the wood or pad as being picky or criticism this is the least of my intentions.

All of the Weatherby Mark Twenty Two bolt actions are fantastic looking guns!

Iím happy Ed Weatherby has chosen his fathers inspired style, stock design for the Mark XXII talk about good taste!

The Mark XXII comes from Anschutz equipped with the Extra Heavy Trigger Spring (Heaviest of four available springs). I hope when a comparison
is made of the CZís versus the MKXXIIís shooting ability that both guns are set at the same trigger pull weight and pre travel distance.
It has a black rubber recoil pad. Actually, that's the only part of the rifle that doesn't look right. The entire rifle looks very well finished, no sanding marks, barrel and action is true in stock, etc. The recoil pad has very rough edges and looks like something you'd stick on an old beater shotgun. I'll probably dress it up someday, it looks that cheap.

I've got the trigger down to 2 lbs 3 oz right now. I can't go under 2 if I want to try it at the match. I'll stick in a lighter spring and tweek it when I want to test for exactly how accurate it is.

I've read many places where the Mark XXII's are about on par with the CZs. Some better, some worse. We'll see how this one does. All of my 22LR CZ's are now set up for peep sights, I don't have an American in 22LR and that's the model that more closely compares to this one. I can get an American model, I found 2 a friend stashed away. He's keeping one for me in case this rifle isn't up to what I expected.

Again, as long as it's close to what the CZs have shown they can do when scoped, I'll be happy. I've got a 1712 that's the most accurate gun I'll ever shoot but I'm now only using that at matches. I don't expect this one to be that good, but if it's close, I'll be very happy.

This was a complete whim purchase. I'm still trying to figure out why I bought it. But it really is a nice looking rifle. I don't think I'll regret getting it.

I'll update on it's accuracy and how I like it sometime early next week. I'm going to try to shoot it early tomorrow morning to get an idea of what ammo it likes. If it goes well, I may try it later that morning in a match. If not, I'm going to shoot the snot out of it Monday morning, so I should know exactly how it stands.

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Old 10-09-2010, 03:09 PM
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RFC members who purchased earlier production guns have reported the black pad. Your forend tip wood is also different from
what now comes on this gun. I suspect your grip cap matches the tip wood? Don't know the exact reason for the change in butt pad color?
Actually I would prefer the black over the red color, ok now you can call me picky..ha ha. Mabe some careful light sanding will spiff up the pad?

I would check the stock screws and make sure they are not too tight. I believe it's best to retighten them in correct sequence
and not over tighten them. Finish tightening the rear screw last.
Did you use a brass brush when cleaning? I think this would help should any gunk be next to a land.

Good luck, I hope this one proves to be highly accurate for you!
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Old 10-11-2010, 05:41 PM
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An update.

Took it to a Match. Stuck a Weaver V24 on it and sighted it in. UGH!!!! The dreaded Anschutz ejection problems strike again! I didn't mind it much as I was set up on a bench, just trying to see how accurate it was with a couple different ammo types.

It's not ready for shooting when it counts yet. Put it back in the truck and used the 1712.... awesome rifle!

Took the Mark XXII to the range today. Arrived at daylight with 7 rifles to shoot. Started with this one.... Impressions..... very very ammo picky. Very bad ejection of spent casings. Very hard to chamber any Eley product. Holds nice freehand but not nearly as accurate as the 1712. I'd say it's behind all my CZs so far. Does ok with Eley Team, sometimes. Not the kind of gun that I'll shoot tiny groups or high scores with. Very pretty though! Others there thought it was nice looking, but one guy had one before and sold it due to accuracy and ejection issues. Wished me luck with mine and laughed. Oh well...

I can fix the ejection problems easily, I've been down that road before so that doesn't bother me as much as the accuracy. I did find that to shoot it off the bags, it has to be in a certain position or it shoots shotgun patterns.

I've seen where some say they shoot the test targets with Blazer ammo. There's no way in the world this gun shot its test target with that ammo. I don't think the test target paper is big enough to get all 5 shots with Blazer on it! Believe me, I tried!

Eley Team does the best of all the ammo I tested. But that's some expensive ammo to get some, not all, groups in the 1/2 inch range.

I played with torque, gun position, and a few other things but the best groups were around 1/2 inch. I might be able to get it under that with some other tweeks, we'll see. But, I might just stick it back in the safe and leave it alone. I've got other rifles, quite a few actually, that shoot much better.

I can see where some say these are about on par with the CZs. I don't have an American model CZ in 22LR, which is pretty close in style to this gun. But the two 22 cal. CZs I have (Lux and Full Stock) shoot rings around this one when scoped. Heck, they might do it with peeps, I'll measure some of the targets tonight and compare. I know for a fact my Americans in HM2 and HMR will shoot this gun back into the dark ages. I've got the targets and data to prove it.

Anyway, I'll probably play with it some. At least I'll fix the ejection problems and bed it. I think some of the stringing might be from the striker spring. I had a few FTF with Eley, SKS and Lapua ammo. That shouldn't happen. I'm starting to have the same thing on my 1712 and have seen where a stronger striker spring is the cure.

Oh well, the day wasn't a total waste. A Brno Model 3, a few CZs and a Kimber 82g put the smile back on my face.

Honestly, I think I'm going to grab an CZ American within the next week. I'd like to have another option to play with besides my 1712. The Weatherby isn't close.

Again, these are just my thoughts on my rifle. I'm not saying other people's rifles would be like this one.


Have a good day,


Kenny
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Old 10-11-2010, 08:27 PM
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Sounds close to my experience in the "seasoning" process. Had to have at least 1200 rounds through it before it settled in. Stuck with CCI for the first couple hundred and did all right...not great but hung with the CZ. Par.....then she slowly settled in, several different ammo test and ended up with Green Tag being bingo and consistantly. I hand feed for the best groups..just sayin.
Oh and that is a fine lookin wood on her - got character. I have a very early production..has black spacer and a redish pad.
Congrats on a fine lookin rifle.
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Sounds close to my experience in the "seasoning" process. Had to have at least 1200 rounds through it before it settled in. Stuck with CCI for the first couple hundred and did all right...not great but hung with the CZ. Par.....then she slowly settled in, several different ammo test and ended up with Green Tag being bingo and consistantly. I hand feed for the best groups..just sayin.
Oh and that is a fine lookin wood on her - got character. I have a very early production..has black spacer and a redish pad.
Congrats on a fine lookin rifle.
Thanks, I needed that. I was kind of bummed when I wrote my post. I'll try some of the cci. I've never had any luck with it in any gun I've purchased in the last few years. But, I've got some, so I'll try it.

I did hand feed each round, I've found it does make a difference when testing for absolute accuracy.

I will try to shoot it more, but it's kind of hard to do when other rifles I own are more accurate. But, I'll give it a chance. I really do like the looks and feel of the rifle.

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I can see where some say these are about on par with the CZs. I don't have an American model CZ in 22LR, which is pretty close in style to this gun. But the two 22 cal. CZs I have (Lux and Full Stock) shoot rings around this one when scoped. Heck, they might do it with peeps, I'll measure some of the targets tonight and compare. I know for a fact my Americans in HM2 and HMR will shoot this gun back into the dark ages. I've got the targets and data to prove it.
Well, Kenny, that still makes it a pretty good shooter. I've got a Cooper 57M that shoots "only" was well as my 452 FS.

The rifle is pretty, and that might inspire you to work on it some. I understand how you feel, though. When you have fine shooting BRNOs and CZs, I don't like messing with a rifle that is "picky."
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Kenny, we have a very nice striker spring for your rifle and also for the 1712.
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Another update.

Took it apart last night. Did some sanding to get the barrel to float. It was binding in a few spots but it's good now. While waiting for the poly to dry, took the extractors out and filed them down a little to fix the ejection problem.

Also, ran some wipeout in the barrel last night and let it sit through the night. I think I missed some gunk! What a mess! Got it cleaned up and took it out to try a few freehand shots.

The ejection is fixed... no problems with spent casings, they all go right. Shot only at 77 and 100 yards but didn't do too badly. I have some swingers set up to practice with. Used Wolf MT and SK+ and actually did ok. I'm not comfortable with this gun yet, but I will bench it next Wednesday and see if what I did made improvements and how much. If it improves, I'm going to practice with it a bunch just to see how I would do.

Honestly, this is a very pretty rifle, at least to me. I want to make it shoot, so hopefully what has been done so far will show me some progress. I've got all winter to mess with it and if I can get it close to the 1712 I'll probably use it next summer.

As for wood tips and butt pad colors, I have no idea if it's old or new. I think it's brand new as the shop I got it at just put it out last week. But he could have ran across an old one and got it. It doesn't matter to me, as mentioned, it was a total whim purchase. I just like the looks, but goodness what a difference between the 54 and 64 Anschutz actions.

After messing with my other Annie, this action seems wimpy. Even the CZs and Brnos seem to have a better built action and bolt. But, if it does the job, who cares?

Have a good evening,

Kenny
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Kenny, we have a very nice striker spring for your rifle and also for the 1712.
https://www.jnpgunsprings.com/produc...roducts_id=124

https://www.jnpgunsprings.com/produc...roducts_id=229

Good luck.
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Don't worry, I've got a huge list of things I'll be ordering from you guys within the next few months. I've tried some of your products in the past and am very very impressed. Also, your customer service is second to none. Thanks for that! It's becoming rare these days.

So, sometime this winter, you guys will make enough off me to have a steak or two.


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