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Old 04-17-2008, 05:42 PM
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This, from the Shooting Wire:

Yesterday, Wal-Mart shocked the firearms industry with an announcement they were joining the Mayors Against Illegal Guns coalition in signing that organization's Responsible Firearms Retailer Partnership, a ten-point agreement calling for a variety of controls in the sale of firearms. Those controls range from videotaping all firearms transactions and making those records available to law enforcement to an internal tracking system that would "flag" potential firearms purchasers who had bought firearms from Wal-Mart subsequently used in the commission of a crime. While industry officials are reeling from what they call a "blindside", retail observers confide the decision could reflect an intent to eventually jettison the entire firearms category from Wal-Mart's product mix. In today's edition of The Outdoor Wire, editor Jim Shepherd takes an in-depth look at the decision, the response, and the possible implications of the decision. If you're not a subscriber to The Outdoor Wire, you can see today's edition by going to www.theoutdoorwire.com and clicking on today's date in the calendar on the right side of the page. While there, you might also want to sign up for your own subscription to The Outdoor Wire.

I e-mailed Wal-Mart expressing my concerns, only to greeted by this:

Dear (my first name), (Like we were friends, or something!)

Wal-Mart understands its role as a leading, responsible retailer in the U.S. and is making strides to strengthen its already existing security processes to help combat illegal gun activity in the communities we serve. Wal-Mart has a long and proud history of offering the products hunters and outdoorsmen want and need and that will not change.

It is important to note that these procedures should not impede law-abiding citizens from purchasing firearms at our stores that sell them. These processes merely provide us, as a retailer, an additional mechanism to assist law enforcement when illegal activity occurs.

We are hopeful these enhanced processes with help from law enforcement and other retailers committing to do the same can make a positive difference in our communities.

Thank you,
Wal-Mart Customer Relations

Now I do realise that Wal-Mart is the world's largest retailer, and they obviously know a lot more about making money than do I, but I think that it is important that gun owners let their feelings be known about this.
First of all, agreeing to anything Bloomberg is hyping has to be wrong, it has to! Second of all "video taping" all purchasers of firearms? Hello? Are they also going to video tape purchasers of kitchen knives and baseball bats?

Okay....</rant off>
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Old 04-17-2008, 08:58 PM
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Yep, I was going to order a 10/22 from Walmart the day this happened. Then I heard the news and will never purchase another firearm from them. I'm a law abiding citizen that will take my business to a company that isn't going to have a video record of me and the guns I own. Who is going to manage this data? How secure is it? Why not videotape anyone who has a drink in a bar - it shouldn't effect law abiding citizens right? Only those that get in their car and drive. This is a garbage policy.
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Old 04-17-2008, 09:18 PM
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Wont' buy another firearm from them. Would really like to stop buying anything from them..........
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Old 04-17-2008, 09:29 PM
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two of the walmarts in dallas have stopped selling (or never started) firearms. granted the ones i tried weren't in the most desirable parts of town, but it still chapped my hide.
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Old 04-17-2008, 09:32 PM
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Do you really think that you are not being video taped when you buy a kitchen knife, or baseball bat at Wally World? These are the people that hired Rosie O' as a spokesperson. I seem to remember that the email response to her anti-gun stance was met with a "so what" from Wally World. When the emails started being sent to the companies that Wally World sells, things changed. I would imagine that this would work again. Start sending emails to Ruger, Federal, and all of the other sporting goods companies that sell their products through Wally World. Tell them you will not buy another one of their products as long as they are associated with Wally World. Tell them that this is due to the recent announcement that Wally World is associated with the Bloomberg anti gun policy. Walk down the isles and look at the products that are for sale at Wally World; send emails to all of them, and copy Wally World.

This worked once with Rosie O'. I would think that it would work with Bloomberg.
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Old 04-17-2008, 09:50 PM
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I spoke with a long term WW employee that stated "selling guns isn't worth the time". It takes roughly 30-45 mins to complete a transaction for a 10/22 they make about 40 on. They then have security escort the purchaser out. The local WW here stopped selling guns over a year ago. My guess is that all will eventually follow. We die a second at a time. Just like our rights! Ammo will continue to be a major part of their sporting goods section.
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Old 04-17-2008, 10:24 PM
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Yet another reason to support your local shop and save them from extinction.
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Old 04-18-2008, 09:52 AM
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Wont' buy another firearm from them. Would really like to stop buying anything from them..........

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Old 04-18-2008, 12:27 PM
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Do you really think that you are not being video taped when you buy a kitchen knife, or baseball bat at Wally World? These are the people that hired Rosie O' as a spokesperson. I seem to remember that the email response to her anti-gun stance was met with a "so what" from Wally World. When the emails started being sent to the companies that Wally World sells, things changed. I would imagine that this would work again. Start sending emails to Ruger, Federal, and all of the other sporting goods companies that sell their products through Wally World. Tell them you will not buy another one of their products as long as they are associated with Wally World. Tell them that this is due to the recent announcement that Wally World is associated with the Bloomberg anti gun policy. Walk down the isles and look at the products that are for sale at Wally World; send emails to all of them, and copy Wally World.

This worked once with Rosie O'. I would think that it would work with Bloomberg.
For the record, Rosie O was the spokesperson for K-Mart not Walmart.

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Old 04-18-2008, 02:14 PM
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Wal Mart wants to control crime, but can't even prevent it in their own store?

WATCH THIS VIDEO!!!

This guy puts on a Wal Mart vest, and looks official, that no one even questions his identity!

http://www.unigrads.com/videos/wal-m...ts-invaded.wmv
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Old 04-18-2008, 02:25 PM
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The last 10/22 I bought was a Wally Special. If it were obtainable from any other vendor I would have been there! Now that I have it there is no reason to ever set foot in their locations! Anything they sell can be obtained elsewhere! After all they do not manufacture anything, all they do is SELL. If they can buy it, so can you and I. We may not want ten thousand truck loads, but things are available in smaller quantities!!!
The rant goes on...forever! "Down, the EVIL EMPIRE!"
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Old 04-18-2008, 03:18 PM
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We get all worked up over stuff, and the entire time the big picture is so far up we don't get it at all.

If you think the Gun things are bad, they are not close to what walmart along with Hillary Clinton has and will do to this Country. Hillary just happened to be one of Walmarts top Lawyers (consultant?) while Billy boy was pushing the big free trade. We have been sold out to China, and that's a fact. As far as I'm concerned the ones in the office pushing the free trade and those who signed the bill committed treason to the Country and it's citizens. It has not hit full force yet, I'm not a dooms day person however I fear we are in for some times of hunger and suffering. I hope we have enough ammo to shoot a few rabbits when the time comes, and trust me by that time guns will be worthless all they have to do is stop the ammo. We should get as emotional about the big picture as we do about the small stuff, and from what I have seen both sides Republican and Democratic are the exact same people when it comes to our interest which is nothing to them.... Our Dollar is now going down the drain, the housing market his half the value it was, and 97&#37; of everything we purchase is made in China... be it walmart or the mom and pop stores, and mom and pop would love to put it to you just as bad as walmart.

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Old 04-18-2008, 03:40 PM
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everything is made in china b/c they will make it for cheaper. Companies like WalMart et.al. (look at what you're wearing - I will bet that something is made in china - buttons, zippers, rivots on jeans) buy cheaper made products to sell here so that Americans can buy more. could you imagine what things would cost if everything we used was made in the USA?

the labor will work for less too. is that walmart's fault? or a politician's fault? if you really want to get down to it, it's a product of our whole governmental system and the idea that everyone is entitled to a certain standard of living. why get a job making minimum wage and have to work when you can sit on your but collecting welfare? even at our minimum wage standards, we couldn't match the production margins that China can (and frankly, China has joined the "offshoring" game - subbing out work to cheaper places like Vietnam)
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Old 04-18-2008, 03:58 PM
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No it's not walmarts fault.. lets do this

Lets take away every single thing we have fought for, as in workers rights, right down to EPA and then you can compete with china. So we can afford more if we buy made in china, what then will we pay for that more we can afford ? We are not producing anything anymore, our Country has been sold out, yes they places buy things from China because it's cheaper...but where is the savings to the people ? A big eye opener we don't save, the middle man or stores just make more !! Look at what your wearing, I agree and I would almost bet you a NIB 10/22 that you could do a survey and 99&#37; of what you wear will not be made in the USA, and I would go even to 99.9% if you take what has a Made In USA tag on it and researched where it was really made, NOT HERE maybe the put the tag on here, or boxed it here. We were or are sold out to China, Mexico, India, anywhere that can make more money for the seller than here... I agree also we have some real trash in our Counrty, but it goes all the way to the people in the White House...

I was not attacking you vshank, but this is a sore subject for me. Places all over here are closing down because of China and the "free tade" and I'm tired of the people who want to work being forced to work those minimum wage jobs because all the jobs going somewhere else. I say if the people wanting to sell us out to china want china made things that bad send them to china and let them sell the products in china as well...

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Old 04-18-2008, 04:33 PM
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My concern

My concern is not that WalMart may videotape sporting goods transactions or that they might make those videos available to the police. Fewer and fewer WalMarts are selling guns anyway.

While I agree this may be a smaller focus situation it is one that's important to all of us here. This isn't about WalMart buying in China or paying minimum wage. It's about the political affiliation of the largest retailer in America with the most anti-gun elected official in America. Bloomberg will stop at nothing in his efforts to disarm the law-abiding citizen and he's now managed to flim-flam the most successful business in the country.

Check out the link in OregonForester's original post. The 4-16 Outdoor Wire editorial about this is worth the read.

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