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Old 02-28-2020, 11:43 AM
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A free throw is worth 1 point no matter where it goes through the hoop.
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Old 02-28-2020, 05:18 PM
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All I have to ask myself is: Did I hit what I was aiming at?
If I didn't, I failed. If I did, Rule #1 was successfully accomplished.
No matter distance, caliber, conditions, firearm or target size.
Rule #1...Hit what you aim at.
If you don't, y'er wasting ammo.
I don't usually disagree with jaia, but I'm never wasting ammo because for me it's all about having a good time and when I'm shooting, that's what I'm doing.
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Old 02-28-2020, 05:36 PM
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If y'er never wasting ammo, ya' must always be hitting what ya' aim at, sof.


Like the can, or the dirt next to the can.



I am way too easily entertained.
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Old 02-28-2020, 05:50 PM
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Ah!
The accuracy of a snubby in a machine rest
..... versus......
MY accuracy off hand.
The center of my question!

Case in point:
I had a hammerli air pistol that came with a 5 shot test group that was a single very slightly out of round hole. Cool.
Soooo
When a shot drifted out to the 5 ring I new exactly why.

Two definitions of ‘accuracy’.
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Old 03-01-2020, 01:54 PM
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If y'er never wasting ammo, ya' must always be hitting what ya' aim at, sof.


Like the can, or the dirt next to the can.



I am way too easily entertained.
Haven't missed the dirt in a while
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Old 03-01-2020, 02:28 PM
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Pretty sure Jala and I don't like the pistol comparison but I say yeah, accuracy is relative. My comparison might be; shooting .010" @ 25 yds and .900" @ 100 yds...both with a rifle.

Contrary to what many think and say; any 22lr rifle can shoot any old bulk ammo into a single round hole @ 25 yds.. Hogwash!





Al says it pretty good.

Im just happy to keep most of the holes near the center with any pistol.


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Old 03-01-2020, 05:14 PM
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I went to the range this morning and shot several one-hole groups.

Second shot screwed up every one of them.

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Old 03-02-2020, 07:59 AM
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One Hole Groups?

I guess it's all about the ammo. I had an older box of 333's that shot super at 25 yards, so I got another. Bad mistake. It didn't perform nearly as well as the old box I had. Same story with the CCI SV. I guess it is all about the "luck of the draw" when at the checkout line. My "new" cheap ammo may be CCI SV, and it is iffy at best..... even at 25 yards. Trying to shoot itty bitty groups with Aguila SV is another adventure in humility. Shooting USBR at 25 or 50 yards with better quality ammo will certainly spoil you ....... forever. My checking account is telling me I've been spoiled quite enough.... I just hate it when that happens..... Just may have to trade my USBR targets for some tin cans. (there is a flashback for you!) Ha! Later Gator...... AH

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Old 03-21-2020, 03:52 PM
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For some people hitting a Coke can 9 of 10 times is accurate. For other people if all 25 dots don't disappear, the rifle is not accurate. It's all relative.
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Old 03-22-2020, 01:16 AM
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Accuracy is not absolute!

I would be thrilled with a 1 inch group at 100 yards from a pistol mounted in a ransom rest!

But seriously, a 10/22 that shoots 2 to 3 inch groups with mini mags at 100 yards is doing good. That would be horrible for a CZ 452 varmint.

A good 10/22 that shoots under 1 inch at 50 is a reliable game getter. A CZ 452 that shoots 1/2 inch groups at the same distance is a better game getter!

A pistol that shoots 1 inch at 25 is a reliable game getter. I once had a 4 inch 622 that would barley hold a 2 to 3 inch group at 25 yards. Great plinker but not interesting enough as a hunting arm to keep when a mark II I had would shoot 1 inch groups regularly. My newer buckmark camper was not as reliable as my old smith and Wesson out of the box, but boy it can shoot!
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Old 03-22-2020, 02:52 AM
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+1 rc. Every discipline has its own standard as to what is considered "accurate", just like the examples you gave. At opposite ends, the stock 10/22 shooting Mini Mags between 2-3" @ 100 yards would be considered accurate for the platform/ammo to most....but the top level F class centerfire shooter expects to do that well or better @ 600 yards. Different standards of expectation for different scenarios.
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Old 03-23-2020, 10:43 AM
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Anything shooting mini mags into 3 would be good at 100 yards.


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I do not own any target guns. I do have some rifles that will shoot MOA or better for several rounds as in hunting. I am basically a plinker. 22lr to me is a 50-60 yard round. I dont buy expensive target ammo. If I can keep a 30-50 rounds of 22lr cheap stuff inside a 2" bull @ 50 yards I am happy. My most accurate rimfires are a 17 HM2 that will shoot 1 MOA and an H&R 22 Mag Handirifle that will also shoot 1 MOA with Winchester 40 grain. 22lr is probably 90% of my shooting and I go through quite a bit.
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I went to the range this morning and shot several one-hole groups.

Second shot screwed up every one of them.

It'll get better when you get older JN.






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