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Old 05-11-2020, 12:11 PM
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I don't know whether to put this in here, or in the 22LR ammo sub forum, but it's the first time I experienced lead fouling and it's very bad, it took me a day to soak and brush them off my Mark IV and 22/45.

The culprit is CCI Blazer - no not the black box which I used before without problem.. but it's the ones in red box in 200 rounds each for $7.98 at walmart. I thought it was very cheap so I bought a couple of boxes... then I paid the price!

I don't think they are the same ammo in black box because the black box version has a lot of wax in them IIRC...

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Old 05-13-2020, 12:43 AM
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If you clean barrel until it’s clean and the polish inside of barrel it will help and be easier to clean just Jb bore cleaner and polish
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Old 05-13-2020, 04:46 PM
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I purchased 2 1050 round boxes of the CCI Blazer 38 grain ammo. Twice in a row it has horribly leaded the bore of my G44. I've just returned from shooting it and my barrel is a sewage pipe again. I haven't cleaned it from returning. But after the first time shooting it, I worked on it for hours, first with hoppers # 9 and then with Kroil. No luck. Even used a 25 caliber bore brush. I have it a good soaking with Kroil and let it soak overnight. This morning I worked on it for a hour or 2 and finally got it out. Checked it with a bore light. I then gave it a good work out with JB bore compound followed be a cleaning with Ballistol. I let the bore soak with Ballistol until I later went to shoot. And like I stated, it is badly leaded again.

I've been shooting for 59 years, I'm 71 now, and I've never seen such leading. Wait, I take that back. In the mid nineteen seventies I had had a Colt Python and heavy loaded lead bullets would do a number on it's bore.

I'm glad I came here to investigate and to see your post. I was thinking about trying them in my 2 Ruger MK IVs but not now. I'm Just stuck with about 1500 rounds of ammo I cannot use.

I thought Winchester bulk pack lead hollow points was bad at leading my G44, but at least it was very easy to clean out. I've fired a lot of different types of 22 in the G44 but in appropriately 6000 rounds, those are the only 2 that has left lead deposits.

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Old 05-13-2020, 06:22 PM
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I shoot them in my ruger and no problem but I did polish the barrel before I used them I use met al polish you can buy a few different places
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Old 05-13-2020, 06:25 PM
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I had a S&w victory 22 5 1/2 barrel that would get leased until I clean it very good and then polished it that took care of the problem
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If you clean barrel until itís clean and the polish inside of barrel it will help and be easier to clean just Jb bore cleaner and polish
Turtle that's what I use it works great and it leaves it shiny.
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Old 05-13-2020, 08:02 PM
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Yes it will and some barrels are a little ruffer than others
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Old 05-13-2020, 11:32 PM
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After much difficulty I was able to get a solvent soaked patch thru the bore after quite a few passes with bore brush. Huge chunks of lead was coming out. Iím letting it soak with Kroil until I can get back on it.

I have approximately 6000 rounds thru the G44 and of all the many different 22 rounds Iíve fired thru it, only the Winchester lead hps leaded ( slightly) and the CCI Blazer 38 grain lead have leaded. The Blazers has leaded terrible each time.

Why did the Blazers lead the bore so bad, much worse than the Winchester, when no other 22 cartridge ( either copper coated or waxed) has ever leaded the barrel.

The only reason I bought the Winchesters was during the recent ammo shortage they were the only ones available. For the past 30 years Iíve avoided Winchester 22 ammo which prior was always my favorite, especially the Super X HP. My Remington 541T used to love them.

I will not buy any more of the Blazers.

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What are you talking about polishing the barrel? Is this something that should be done?
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Old 05-14-2020, 12:58 AM
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What are you talking about polishing the barrel? Is this something that should be done?
It's normally done by the elite rifle shooters who compete and shoot 1/4 MOA groups with expensive 22LR ammo.

Anyway, back to topic... I have shot crap ammo with my MK4 Competition and it never got fouled with lead.. it's only this new CCI 38gr in my picture above that fouled it, and I always clean properly every after shooting session.. Would also add, I only shot a box of 200 rounds between my MKIV's, and they both got fouled.
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Old 05-14-2020, 09:16 AM
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To polish a barrel you clean it get everything thing out . Then take wooden q tip and a patch and use metal polish work the patch in and out then clean barrel good it will improve accuracy and keep it easy to clean. You can use jb or flits I was met all
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Old 05-14-2020, 01:56 PM
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To polish a barrel you clean it get everything thing out . Then take wooden q tip and a patch and use metal polish work the patch in and out then clean barrel good it will improve accuracy and keep it easy to clean. You can use jb or flits I was met all

Ok, appreciate it. So like motherís mag and aluminum or the likes of? Another question. What is the Butchís Bore Shine, would that do it?
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Old 05-14-2020, 06:13 PM
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cleaning leaded barrel

Yea lead ammo can be a real bugger. Simple and fast way to clean it out is get an all copper pot scrubber (looks like real coarse steel wool) and use a worn bore brush with a few strands of the copper wrapped around it. Usually takes 5-15 passes and your done. You can find the all copper scrubber at wallyworld. good luck
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I have never tried butches bore shine ! The cleaning and polishing has always worked for me! Makes sure you use a good quality cleaning rod and bore guide!
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Old 05-14-2020, 07:24 PM
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I guess I'm fortunate but in my 75 years I've never had a .22 lead the barrel. Fouled the chambers but no lead in a bbl.
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