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Old 04-17-2020, 01:55 PM
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1965 Belgium Browning T-Bolt salt wood



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I was in a gun shop today and looked at a Belgium Browning T-Bolt grade 1. Always suspecting salt wood stock I asked to take barreled action out of stock. 1965 being first year with a four digit serial I was hoping but not to be. But still not really bad. Some previous owner scratched some rust off at some point at a few small places mostly under the wood. The safety is in really bad condition and one side of the magazine well. The butt plate screws are frozen. The rifle looks good siting in the stock and has the original peep sight, front sight, magazine and the single shot adapter. Tagged price is 450.00. I am tempted at a lower price as a project. Replace the stock, safety if one can be found, and touch up the rest. I know this is not unusual to find in a T-bolt but some think salt wood started in 1966 or 67. Since this one is 1965 I thought I would share what I saw. Still considering as a project. What do you think?
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Old 04-17-2020, 02:04 PM
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Not more than a $250 shooter in my book...and I'd leave it as that, not put time and money into it.
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Old 04-17-2020, 02:33 PM
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If you could get it cheap enough, I would fix it. The problem is that the cost of the stock, and the parts, if you can find them, make this tough to be cost effective.
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Salt T-Bolt

Yes it could be cost prohibitive. New reproduction stock that needs final fit and finish is 100.00 plus. Agree starting price point is the key factor.
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I have 2 salty tbolts, bought the first as a shooter, second cause it was cheap. they both shoot excellent. first one has a really great trigger too. anyhow, it always makes me wonder, just what were they thinking. don't take a genius to figure out salt and blued steel don't go together too well.
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Old 04-17-2020, 06:50 PM
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If it were me . . .

. . . based on the pictures, I'd pass.

Not all that hard to find a nice one to shoot and look at . . .

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At $450 I would run to my car after seeing that. Interesting now to see if the shop owner "discloses" the condition. Could that safety possibly work?
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At $450 I would run to my car after seeing that. Interesting now to see if the shop owner "discloses" the condition. Could that safety possibly work?
That is what I was thinking.
Will the shop owner disclose what he now knows?
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salt T-Bolt

Yes the shop owner will disclose. The rifle is actually a consignment. Yes the safety works. The barreled action looks good in the stock until it is removed. The clues to me before I took it apart was the safety and the dark spots in the wood from salt bleeding out. As many of these T-Bolts that are salt wood and I think they all should be considered suspect until proven otherwise. The effect of salt wood can be near nothing to extreme junk. I would not consider 450 as a buying price. If it was priced in line with condition I was considering it as a project gun for something to do.
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Old 04-18-2020, 05:33 AM
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in 69 i bought a new t bolt. down the line the barrel and receiver did rust badly. i paid $100 for a beautiful blue job that looks better than factory and i refinished the stock. i sanded inletted areas of stock and sealed with a clear poly. 40 yrs later there is no sign of rust. just saying you don.t necessarily need a new stock.
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There is a huge difference in the amount of salt these stocks may have. It depends on where in the pile they were when the salt was applied.

Most salt wood stocks canít be fixed with coatings.

The only sure way to fix them is to buy a new stock.
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There is a huge difference in the amount of salt these stocks may have. It depends on where in the pile they were when the salt was applied.

Most salt wood stocks canít be fixed with coatings.

The only sure way to fix them is to buy a new stock.
This...

When I purchased mine I'd already done a lot reading on them and being a friend of "Noremf" I sent him photos of mine as soon as I got it, my intent was to keep the rust at bay and shoot it regularly, I paid right at $300 as I recall.

George at first felt mine had been poorly cared for rather than being a "salt wood" but he was working off photos alone.






and there it is....



Butt plate screws will not budge, I love the look of the rifle but there's nothing that will stop the salt from attacking the metal eventually, I've cleaned it, put several coats of Rensaissane wax on it and check it periodically. Mean while its a great shooting and handling little rifle.
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Did George mention anything about sealing the stock? I would think that lacquer would do a good job of sealing it.
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Per George nothing will seal it permanently, best bet would be one of the Poly finishes but he felt even those would eventually be compromised.
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