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Old 08-20-2008, 10:36 PM
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I just bough a book on the net with some more info
on are rifles. I will scan it one of these weeks.
From what I have read.... Vostok....Baikal.... was companys that
marketed sporting rifles & ammo. There is two rifle factory's in the city
of Izhevsk or there was two. Izhmash (Military arms) & Izhmekh (sporting arms)
its kind of murky but from what I have read Motohead & white house
have are not CM-2's but an BK-3 but they all share the same basic receiver
design. Its all kind of interesting.

Just remember CM-2 here SM-2 in Russia.

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Old 08-20-2008, 10:43 PM
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I just bough a book on the net with some more info on are rifles....
What is the title of the book?
Are there any copies available?
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Here is where I bough it.
http://books.google.com/books?id=Eq2...sult#PPA187,M1
I bough a used book for $16.00. Barnes & Nobel
Check out this poster for sale.
http://www.auctionarms.com/search/di...temnum=8022355

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Old 08-21-2008, 12:04 AM
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Looks like where not the only ones talking about these
Russian target rifles. Lots of pic.
http://milsurpshooter.net/topic/2824...-pictures.html
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Old 08-21-2008, 11:18 AM
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WOW! Good find Swiss. We may figure this out one of these days.

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Well it may fill in some of the blanks.
What I have read so far is that its safe to say that if the bolt
handle is the only locking lug its a CM-2...SM-2.
If your rifle has 3 locking lugs its an BK-3 action. There top
target rifle.
The rifles that use the 3-locking lugs would have the BK-3 action
would be the Strela, BK-3, Ural.

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Old 08-21-2008, 03:24 PM
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Very nice rifle, especially that reddish one! Note he said $275 each from his dealer; I guess CAI must've had a special on them or something 'cause that post was edited in June and today's prices are all a bit higher. I think CAI's "cracked stock" was $299. Also, like CDNN, CAI does not differentiate the models. One last very general observation, IMO milsurps imported by Tennessee Guns lately tend to be in nicer shape than those brought in by CAI.
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So mine's a BK-3? Now you guys have me all mixed up....
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So mine's a BK-3? Now you guys have me all mixed up....
If yours has YPA/\ stamped on it, then it's a Ural. Which has the BK-3 type bolt(heavy duty, top of the line, the shiznit). Mine looks almost identical to the one pictured on the thread that Swiss so kindly posted for us. My Ural is also a blond, but with a better finish. Now my "Vostok" CM-2, as it's stamped, doesn't have the BK-3 type bolt, but still shares many features with my "Vostok" Ural, that the newer CM-2 rifles DON'T have. Thanks Swiss.
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Old 08-21-2008, 08:49 PM
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The underside of the barrel had "C.A.I. Georgia, Vt. Cal .22". I haven't checked, but I think it's Century Arms.

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Yes it was imported by Century. My Ural was imported by Century, and my CM-2 was imported by TGI.
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Very nice rifle, especially that reddish one! Note he said $275 each from his dealer; I guess CAI must've had a special on them or something 'cause that post was edited in June and today's prices are all a bit higher. I think CAI's "cracked stock" was $299. Also, like CDNN, CAI does not differentiate the models. One last very general observation, IMO milsurps imported by Tennessee Guns lately tend to be in nicer shape than those brought in by CAI.
I got my Ural from Century around May of this year, and it was $399 with NO cracks, and supposedly they only had one left. I made Herb(my sales rep)call down to make sure of the condition, and if in fact it was a Ural, and not cracked I for sure wanted it. I do believe cracked ones were $299. Probably this guy's local store bought them from Century, and couldn't move them, so made him a deal on them. Lucky fellow!
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So....a couple of days ago I thought I had a Vostok CM-2, now I have a Vostok Ural BK-3. That's almost like a 2 for 1 deal!! Whoo-Hooo

Just found this. Ya'll might giv'er a looksee

http://books.google.com/books?id=Eq2...sult#PPA186,M1

I just noticed that this is the same link you already had, Swiss. I'm a dumba**
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So....a couple of days ago I thought I had a Vostok CM-2, now I have a Vostok Ural BK-3. That's almost like a 2 for 1 deal!! Whoo-Hooo

Bob
MH, Your rifle has YPA/\-2 stamped on it, has the dovetail for the rear sights on top, and has no bolt release lever on the left side, correct? If so, then it's different from my Ural, in all those respects. My "Vostok" Ural looks identical to the rifles pictured in the Milsurp thread. Look closely at the receiver, and how it makes two neck downs to the barrel. Compare your receiver features with the receiver pictures of his Ural version. Your rifle almost looks to be a cross between my Ural, and the new CM-2 rifles??? Either way it's a nice rifle, and different!
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Old 08-21-2008, 10:27 PM
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MH, Your rifle has YPA/\-2 stamped on it, has the dovetail for the rear sights on top, and has no bolt release lever on the left side, correct? If so, then it's different from my Ural, in all those respects. My "Vostok" Ural looks identical to the rifles pictured in the Milsurp thread. Look closely at the receiver, and how it makes two neck downs to the barrel. Compare your receiver features with the receiver pictures of his Ural version. Your rifle almost looks to be a cross between my Ural, and the new CM-2 rifles??? Either way it's a nice rifle, and different!
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Mike,
Almost....Mine is stamped YPA/\-2. Dovetail on TOP Rear and Front of port. It does have the bolt release button. My receiver is octagonal on top. More like the CM-2, weird. It's a hybrid.

Bob

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Maybe they had some spare parts from each rifle and made a "frankenrifle"
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