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Old 11-21-2007, 11:26 AM
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Question Toz78: Fires .22 Short, Lg, LR - Newbie Question



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Hey guys,
I have been reading on here for a while now, but thought I would finally say hi and ask a question. I recently got a Toz78-01. I have a stupid question for ya... I have fired 22lr and some 22 shorts out of it. Since I am pretty new to 22's in general and don't know much about 22 ammo, can I fire 22 longs from it? I think I can, but am not sure. What about 22 magnums? I don't think I can, but like i said, don't know much about 22s. I know guns pretty well and have been shooting for about 5 years, but mostly centerfire rifles and shotguns. Anyway, thanks in advance for your help!

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Old 11-21-2007, 12:22 PM
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the importers site only mentions .22LR
http://www.tennesseeguns.com/toz.html
does the manual specify what type(s) of .22 caliber ammunitions are acceptable?

If it can Handle Long Rifles and Shorts it will most likely fire Longs as well though. Longs are in between shorts and Long Rifles for headspace.

Definately wouldn't try magnums unless the firearm is specfically chambered to handle them. The Win Mag is much longer and the cartridge itself may actually contact the rifling . It also wouldn't be designed to handle the extra pressure the Magnum generates.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:2...ter_Magnum.JPG
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Old 11-21-2007, 12:36 PM
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Awesome. Thanks. That pic is just what I was looking for. The magnum actually appears to have a larger diamater case as well if I am correct? I feel dumb asking these questions that seem obvious, but I would rather ask and know that not. I don't really have a specific reason for wanting to fire the other cartridges, just more for my own knowledge than anything. So far I am loving this gun though. At first I was having some trouble with it not wanting to feed from the clips, but then I switched from the Remington gold bullets to some CCI blazers as suggested on some thread I found here and all is good! Accurate too! I can easily outshoot my old man's stock 10/22. Now I just need a scope for this bad boy and I will be rockin' and rollin'!
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MMainiac....

While pretty much any gun designed to shoot .22 LR will also accept shorts and longs, it really isn't that great an idea to shoot anytihing other than the cartridge the gun is designed for. The reason for this is that the chamber is machined to a certain length, in this case the proper length for a .22 LR cartridge. A shorter cartridge will fit, but does not actually fill up the chamber. You will likely get lesser accuracy from shorts and longs as a result. Considering the comparative rarity of shorts and longs these days, I really cannot think of any reason you should be shooting anything except LR in your TOZ.

Magnums are out of the question. They will not fit at all as the chamber is too short for them.
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Its like a firearm designed to handle .223 cartridges.

Yes , you can fire 5.56 NATO rounds in it, they appear nearly identical to .223 Rems. But its probably not designed to handle the extra pressures of 5.56 military cartridges.

Over hundreds or thousands of rounds fired it could cause a malfunction in the firearm and be potentially dangerous or deadly to the operator or bystanders.
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Since I am pretty new to 22's in general and don't know much about 22 ammo, ... but like i said, don't know much about 22s.
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Thank you sir! Those are very informative. Although a few of the links within the threads you linked to don't work, I now know more than I did before. Thanks for the info.
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... Although a few of the links within the threads you linked to don't work, I now know more than I did before ...
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