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Old 10-12-2020, 02:20 AM
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Hi, everyone. I'm not new to this site, but pretty new to this forum. I've had a BSA Martini Model 12 sitting in the safe for several years now, and I've decided that it's time to show it some love. The stock is a bit rough, as you can see in the photo:



There's that roughly-repaired crack and the weird hole right behind the receiver. The forend is OK, so I have a couple of options: replace the stock only and try to match the finish to the forend, or replace both.

Not being much of a woodworker, I'd like something that's drop-in, but I realize that there might not be anything like that available for such an old rifle. I've seen some options for "semi-finished," and I'm wondering how much work that would require. I have a buddy who is a good woodworker -- a cabinetmaker by trade -- and he owes me a favor, so I could probably get him involved in anything tricky.

So ... what are the good sources? I would even consider used parts if in good condition.
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Old 10-12-2020, 09:09 AM
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Treebone Carving supplies blanks. Remember that the Model 12 (and 12/15) are thicker actions than the Cadets, so there needs to be extra wood left at the point where the wood meets the action.

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Old 10-13-2020, 03:45 PM
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In this day of "erector-set" firearms, it seems harder to find someone that can carve a stock. We as a community cannot afford to lose those with that skill set.
Yet it is the demand for these skills that keep it alive. So get some great wood and bang on the internet and call around.
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Old 10-13-2020, 05:38 PM
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Dear toivo, Were I in your predicament, I would call Chesebro Rifles at 661.557.2442 and speak to Mark. I bought a real nice Model 12 from him several years ago and found that he really knows his way around Martini rifles.

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Some thoughts and possible leads on your rifle/stocks.


First of all, are you sure it's a M12? Since you only show part of it, it's hard to say, but it sure looks like a M13 to me with that fore-end and the take-down feature. Barrel length/profile and the presence of any Canadian military markings will determine it one way or the other.


As for original type wood, I'd say there are at least three options.
1. Ebay or firearm auction sites (or a WTB ad in the classifieds here)
2. The shop at Front Royal; John Appleton's shop that is still being run on a limited basis by his family. He had lots of martinis and parts.
3. Gunstocks Inc. and/or CPA should have what you need as well.
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The rifle is deserving of at least a couple of A's describing the figure, and both pieces need to match, gives you a chance to refine the shape of both stocks, might as well search out a fine steel buttplate too.

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Old 11-21-2020, 06:39 PM
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Try gunstocksinc.com

I put a nice set of their wood on my Cadet.

http://gunstocksinc.com/web_pages/Pl...ock-forend.htm
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Martini

G'day toivo,a cabinetmaker by trade, this is what mine looked like. Queensland maple and linseed oil finish,lives in my sons gun safe.Scott.
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Old 11-22-2020, 08:54 AM
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I suggest you look at Wenig's. http://wenig.com/ These are the stock makers who use to work for Reinhart Fajen. They have a lot of experience and know how to correctly build a stock. They do mostly Shotguns these days but have the wood and pattern for the Martini's. When I was building guns I got all my stocks from them. They are a bit expensive but very much worth it.

Another to consider and probably who I would use to day is CPA Rifles. Quality made proper stocks at reasonable prices. https://www.cparifles.com/collections/stocks
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I have made changes to the stock design and the action. Tang shortened , scope base for Controll rings, safety and more. This my help someone to decide on what they may want to make with a Mod. 12

https://i.postimg.cc/4NJgj4zx/P1020043-1.jpg[/IMG]

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Old 12-23-2020, 11:51 PM
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I have made changes to the stock design and the action. Tang shortened , scope base for Controll rings, safety and more. This my help someone to decide on what they may want to make with a Mod. 12

Your image didn't come through -- I fixed the link, and let me tell you, that wood looks awesome!

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First of all, are you sure it's a M12? Since you only show part of it, it's hard to say, but it sure looks like a M13 to me with that fore-end and the take-down feature. Barrel length/profile and the presence of any Canadian military markings will determine it one way or the other.
I have to pull it out of the safe and look for markings, but it's definitely a bull barrel. I thought the Model 13 was a lightweight, tapered barrel. Am I wrong? Anyway, thanks for the tips. This project had moved to the back burner, but now I'm getting interested again.
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Old 12-26-2020, 09:39 AM
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Thanks Tiovo, I am getting so old I can't remember things. I am retired and like to post some of my work in the past. I do not want any jobs to keep me busy as I have other things to do now.

I plan to sell off most of my tools in a few days. Engraving tools, some special files for checkering metal, mini lathe that I used to barrel the last Martini action, and other items. Watch for a post soon!!!

Les Brooks, fulltime RV'ers now in motorhome
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Les,

That is a beautiful rifle. It was somewhat my inspiration for a Martini I had built by Curt Hardcastle several years ago, using a Shilen #3 half-octagon barrel and English walnut from Treebone. The pic of it and also a Model 12 with original barrel I restocked are on the Martini picture thread, page 8. One thing to remember if you order the straight stock from Treebone-the pattern is for a Cadet, so you need to tell George that you need extra wood left to fit the thicker Model 12 action.

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