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Old 12-08-2017, 12:11 AM
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Question The Puzzle - BORE GUIDE



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Hi Guys (Newbie Here)
I'm looking to buy a BORE GUIDE 4 my 452 Rifle.
The puzzle 4 me is the following and need your HELP GUYS !

i'm confiuse example: I know that I want the Bore Guide to have that SLOT
where once i enter the Bore Guide into the breach with the bolt out of course.
I run into a problem of NOT UNDERSTAND about the seal that some guides have.
Questions Please:
1-What is the seal 4 ?
2- Is it recommended that I have that seal on the guide ?
Lastly, after I hear from you guys where on earth to I buy that guide specifically for my .22cal. 452 ?

THANKS GUYS
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Old 12-08-2017, 01:06 AM
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Robert [Bob] G. Hahin in Berkley, CA will custom make a bore guide for your CZ at little cost. His phone # is: 510-334-0738 & he is prompt & honest to a fault; great person & he has made a number of bore-guides for me over the years. Seals are, IMHO a gimmick or unnecessary feature; they purportedly would keep solvent from 'leaking back' into an action. If you are brushing the bbl. w/a solvent soaked brush followed by patches wet & dry and doing any real cleaning of the action afterward I can see no reason for worry about having a 'seal'. I've never noticed any excess of solvent present anywhere anyway using bore guides w/o 'seals'. Winning benchrest shooters have used bore guides for years w/o seals. The purpose of a bore guide [in a bolt action .22RF] is to both keep the rod from being damaged when it is withdrawn and to insure that it goes into the bore straight so as not to abrade the leade, which theoretically could be damaged by repeated bowing of the rod & subsequent wearing of the leade elliptically. Similar wear has also been espoused at the muzzle when using a rope or snake type cleaner, if not pulled exactly in-line w/the bore. I've personally seen neither, but I have witnessed rods gouged & damaged by being withdrawn from some RF bolt guns w/o the use of a bore guide. Not sure this addresses any or all your questions, but hope it provides some added insight for you.

Welcome here and too to the wonderfully quixotic world of RF enjoyment & frustration of tilts toward ever elusive perfection.


Do give Mr. Hahin a call & discuss your need(s) &/or concerns about bore guides w/him & then let him make you one; you'll never regret it.

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Old 12-08-2017, 03:46 AM
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Jeff Madison at Mwerks LLC makes a very nice bore guide for 452's. Will need to know what rod you're using as his bushings are sized for the particular rod. Ivy and Pro Shot SS rods are used by a lot of people who shoot for absolute accuracy.

Use these guides and rods on everything from CZ's, 40x's, 52D's, Anschutz, and my custom actioned BR rifles.

Lucas guides were big at one time, but don't know if you can get them for CZ 452's or even if they're still made.

You're on the right track. Get a good rod and guide. Your gun will thank you.

Kenny

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Mwerks bore guides: http://www.mwerksllc.com/

Ivy cleaning rods: http://www.ivyrods.com/CleaningRODS.htm

Pro Shot Cleaning rods: http://proshotproducts.com/Micro-Pol...Rods_c_80.html

You also have Dewey, Tipton and others. Don't use a two piece rod! Get a solid one piece that's well made.

As to seals, can't answer your questions. I use them, they seem to do what they are designed for. Plus, they help keep the bushing from moving in the guide. I will say that I do take the action out of the stock every so often to wipe any excess solutions that might find their way onto the bedding. For general purpose shooting doubt it would matter much. For what I'm doing, it matters.

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Old 12-08-2017, 05:11 AM
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Old 12-08-2017, 05:29 AM
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I use an mwerks guide with a Dewey .20 cal. rod for all of My CZ 452's.
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Old 12-08-2017, 08:15 AM
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CZs have tight bores so I use a 20 cal rod also, but I have a 204RUG so it works for both.
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Old 12-08-2017, 09:18 AM
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I have a couple styles in my box.

White hard plastic ones I got through Sinclair. I have two of those, they cover win52, cz, and ruger 77/22. I forget but one of them fits two rifle actions

I also have Lucas custom black Delrin for my FN action custom rifles and my 40x. They're nicer and stay put better.

The o rings don't do much. But I clean in a vise with the muzzle lowered.

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Old 12-08-2017, 11:17 AM
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As Kenny said, Mwerks.
Info on selecting the right insert is on the web site.
I have 4 or 5 and my friends also use them.
Have no info on the ones from California, they may be fine also.

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Old 12-09-2017, 12:04 PM
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guides?

"Possum Hollow" also has a specific guide for the CZ452.
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Old 12-09-2017, 02:17 PM
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Possum Hollow IS the Sinclair guide. He took the guide business with him to Florida when he retired and sold the Sinclair business.
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