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Old 12-25-2019, 02:18 PM
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I have had the privilege of owning several different makes and models of 22 LR semi-auto handguns over the years . . . many of which I still own and shoot on a rotation basis at the range. In my experience - the S&W Model 41's are easily my top pick. I have two - a 5.5 & 7" versions which are factory stock, but neither is a Performance Center model.

Those semi-autos include - Browning Buckmark & Challenger I/II's, High Standard Victor's, an IZH 35, Ruger Mark II/III's, S&W 22A1, 22S, & Victory 22, along with a couple of 1911 22LR conversions. There are certainly very good designs and good shooting pistols included in this list, but I "still" would put the Model 41's at the top of the list.

As always - Your experience & results may certainly be different.
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Old 12-26-2019, 12:13 PM
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Absolutely.

You could buy a Ruger 22, spend a bunch of time and money tinkering with it, and it might come close. At the end, you will have a hot rod Chevette. The journey there was probably fun. You will not get back the $$ you put into it if you want to sell.

Or you could get the 41, spend the time and money shooting it. That journey is much more enjoyable. And in the end you will have a nice classic Corvette. That might actually be worth more than what you paid for it if you want to sell.

In my personal experience, the 41 actually cost way less money than the Ruger 22/45 in the long run.
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Old 01-31-2020, 10:07 PM
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There are a lot of really good 22s out there. I like the M41, but a High standard Victor is, to me, a better gun. In fact any of the old HS from the 102 Trophy on up are better shooters then the M41. Now in modern pistols, the Walther GSP, Pardini 90 or 95 is in a different class entirely. Of the old school UIT guns the DES Unique 69' or as another poster mentioned the Beretta, is an outstanding pistol.
What I am trying to point out is don't buy a target gun because everyone is saying " ... The M41 is the best ever made" it is not. Odds are they have never fired any of the other pistols mentioned.
If you really want a good target pistol do some research. You can get a Hamerlli 208 for about the same price.
Take your time and do some research.
That being said the M41 is one hell of a target gun. I hav been shooting them for over fifty years.
I'll second what you say about the DES 69. Much as I love my Model 41, which now has a Herrett target grip, the first pistol I ever bought, the DES is easier to shoot well. It seems to be the only euro pistol that'll shoot US ammo all day happily.
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I think it's worth it. I have had mine 35 years now, and enjoy it more than the K 22. Not long after I got mine, i had a paper catalog , pre internet days, from the old Gil Hebard guns. In it I found a listing for a "field barrel" for the M 41. It looks like S&W took a 7" barrel and shortened it to 5" and used a ramp style front sight vs the Patridge sight, probably for easier use in a holster. My gun as purchased has the 7" barrel. The field barrel to me gives a balance more like a Colt 1911, and is for some reason more fun to shoot, although not quite as accurate too me, probably due to the loss of 2" of sight radius.
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Old 02-02-2020, 10:53 AM
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I have one that I bought used 45 years ago. I paid $200.
Yes. It was worth the money.


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Old 02-08-2020, 09:28 PM
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Model 41 Experience

Two months ago I bought the model 41, functions well. I adjusted the trigger, lighter by three notches, its better, but not as nice as my MKII with a Volquartsen trigger. I may polish up the sear a little, before doing that, what has been the long term results as for leaving it work in by itself. I purchased new because used are about the same price.
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Old 02-09-2020, 05:39 AM
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The Model 41 is especially nice with a red dot sight. If buying used, remember the older ones were not D&T for a rail.
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Two months ago I bought the model 41, functions well. I adjusted the trigger, lighter by three notches, its better, but not as nice as my MKII with a Volquartsen trigger. I may polish up the sear a little, before doing that, what has been the long term results as for leaving it work in by itself. I purchased new because used are about the same price.
Id try shooting it a bit first. Mine that I bought about 10 years ago smoothed out nicely in time. Its still slightly heavier than my MKIII with a VQ kit, but smoother.
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Old 02-16-2020, 05:03 PM
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M41

Gotta love a 41. The new ones are awesome.
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Old 02-16-2020, 05:11 PM
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Nice looking pistols. What grips are on the PC one?
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Old 02-16-2020, 05:23 PM
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Nice looking pistols. What grips are on the PC one?
Factory-issue PC stocks.
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Old 02-16-2020, 10:14 PM
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The S&W PC M41 is not worth $1600 new. There are used M41 pistols on Gunbroker for under $700. I've been watching 3 of them. I wanted to bid on one because the price was right. I used the excuse "I'm buying it for you, dear." She held one of mine, "It is too heavy." I have another one that is lighter, "NO, you don't need 3!" so I did not bid.

For $1600 you can buy a used one for the 1980 to 1995 time frame that is in excellent condition -- it is not a "truck gun" -- for $650 to $850. Then buy a Clark barrel, no sights, and scope mounting ribs, and the dot sight of choice for a total price less than $1600. You end up with 1 frame and 2 complete barrels. The best of both worlds.

In 1981, I bought a NIB M41 (retail $500) for $300 because a sport shop was getting out of the evil gun business. New Remington 700 bolt guns were $150, your choice of caliber. In 2002, I bought a used M41, gun + 1 mag, for $550 that was part of an estate sale (sell all guns in 2 weeks!). It has the Clark barrel and a C-More dot sight.

Yes a Model 41 is worth the money. Just not a Performance Center model at $1600 + tax.
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Old 02-18-2020, 09:38 AM
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I have a 2004 model of the 41. I had extraction issues with it. I changed the extractor to a Volquartsen extractor and it solved the problem. I also have a Ruger MkII frame mated to a Volquartsen LLV-6 receiver. See pics below. If I had to rate them against each other on looks, the 41 wins hands down. If I had to rate them in the accuracy department, the Ruger with the LLV-6 barrel is far more accurate than the 41. A 1/2" group in the LLV-6 translates to 1 1/2" with the 41 at the same distance and the same shooter. Will I keep the 41, probably, it is always good to have a back up in case there is a failure on your other 22 pistol. Is it worth the cost? Yes, You can go to GunBroker and find prices all over the place. I paid $700 for mine and it is worth it.
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Old 02-19-2020, 06:32 PM
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You don't have to pay $1600 for a PC model. Look on Gunbroker they were $1350 not too long ago. I bought one for that. After that I saw some for $1300.
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Is the 7 better than the 5 ? . Why is the performance center only made in 5 . You are comparing apple and oranges , save your money and buy a performance center . Money is long forgotten when quality remains ,
I have two 41s , I like to have a pardini , Jim t
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