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Old 06-01-2019, 09:28 AM
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I've always wondered about the McMillan pistol. Was it factory customized by High Standard for him to take to the Olympics? Or was it something he had made up by a local gunsmith, after figuring out he preferred the rear sight on the rear of the shorter barrel?
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Old 06-01-2019, 10:24 AM
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I've always wondered about the McMillan pistol. Was it factory customized by High Standard for him to take to the Olympics? Or was it something he had made up by a local gunsmith, after figuring out he preferred the rear sight on the rear of the shorter barrel?
The pistol was modified by a Marine Corps armorer. In its present state one might question the walnut grips with trigger logo. The Olympics was in 1960 and the trigger logo did not appear until 1967. Normal Olympic grips in 1960 would have been Bakelite with the large eagle logo.

In preparation for the 1968 Olympics High Standard made an effort to develop an optimum rapid fire for the US Olympic shooters. To that end there are at more than 20 custom made Olympics some with aluminum frames, special slides, special magazines, and special barrels. A lot of money was spent and they had little positive to show for their effort.
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Old 06-01-2019, 12:40 PM
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Yes, I suppose the grips were put on later, given the logo. And the gun got engraved to mark the achievement in 1960, and they took a little bite out of the front corner of the grip to clear the engraving.
Of course, the gun isn't even an Olympic. It's a Trophy frame with modified 6.75 Olympic barrel and slide for an 8-inch barrel.
Without the engraving, if it turned up at a gun show, it would be dismissed as a "Franken" creation!
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Old 06-01-2019, 01:05 PM
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Now thatís going to cause a CDO flare up. Looks like a .22 short pistol to me, not a .22lr as the text would suggest...
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As SGVictor confirms, the pistol was presumably modified by the armorer - taking a Trophy frame, and installing a .22 short barrel from an Olympic (and mounting the sight on its rear), and finishing up with a plain topped alloy slide, and the appropriate magazine for the shorts. Apparently this is the recipe for success at the Rome Olympics - at least in the hands of McMillan!
I always found photos of this pistol interesting, as McMillan must have decided having the rear sight further away was an advantage for him, and the shorter sight radius wasn't an issue.

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Old 06-01-2019, 03:02 PM
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What makes this an Olympic barrel? Curious.
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Old 06-01-2019, 05:17 PM
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What makes this an Olympic barrel? Curious.
The only barrels made in .22 short for the large pushbutton takedown models were the Flite King which had the same tapered profile as the Sport King. This is a "space gun" profile barrel so it is for the Olympic. There were a few thousand export only Flite Kings that had the Supermatic Tournament barrel profile. I am not aware of any of these export only models being seen in the US.
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Old 06-01-2019, 05:34 PM
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Yes, I suppose the grips were put on later, given the logo. And the gun got engraved to mark the achievement in 1960, and they took a little bite out of the front corner of the grip to clear the engraving.
Of course, the gun isn't even an Olympic. It's a Trophy frame with modified 6.75 Olympic barrel and slide for an 8-inch barrel.
Without the engraving, if it turned up at a gun show, it would be dismissed as a "Franken" creation!
However in this case with the available documentation this heavily modified pistol is not devalued by the modifications. Shooters have no such sentimentality for originality. They just want higher scores. As I collector I value the Jim Clark modified High Standards and the John Giles modified High Standards. There are a few others like Bob Chow and Al Dinan that come to mind.
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It appears, that with all the factory options, you could design your very own Factory custom Model 102.

http://www.histandard.info/manuals/

For the Model 102, looks like there was a conversion kit available in 22 Short. The rear sight was put on the barrel to take weight off of the aluminum slide for 22 shots ammo.

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Old 06-02-2019, 12:05 PM
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It appears, that with all the factory options, you could design your very own Factory custom Model 102.

http://www.histandard.info/manuals/

For the Model 102, looks like there was a conversion kit available in 22 Short. The rear sight was put on the barrel to take weight off of the aluminum slide for 22 shots ammo.

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While you could order accessories for most models over the years after about 1950, the company did not have a custom shop. Most guns were sold to either jobbers or distributors with very few sales direct to individuals. If you knew the right people you might be able to buy direct. And while you could buy any parts separately, the factory recommended that you return your gun for fitting of barrels and conversion kits.

The slide on the rear of the back of the 8.00" and 10'00" barrels was to allow the pistol to conform to the sight radius restrictions of competition events. In the case of McMillans medal winning pistol, the configuration was done by the marine Corps armorer and not High Standard. High Standard did not use the rear sight on the back of the 6.75" barrel. They put it on the slide even on the aluminum slides.
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Old 06-02-2019, 12:55 PM
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Looks like Model 102 had 6.75" bbls, with rear sight. $4 to fit it. What a bargain.

I shot ISU Rapid fire in the 70s with a modified Ruger Mk1.

Have a High Standard 107 Trophy and bought the 22 shot kit for it. No fitting required. Sold the short kit a few years ago. I had the hump milled off the aluminum slide so it would fit a Victor model. Accuracy was poor. Different barrel rate twist is needed for 22 shorts.
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Old 06-03-2019, 12:48 PM
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I stand corrected.

No OLYMPIC Model 102 with 6.75" bbl and rear sight on the barrel, that i can find.

My shooting buddies gun must have had the longer barrel. It was a 22 lr.
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