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Old 08-20-2011, 09:36 AM
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I had Canyon Creek finish a stock a while back and it shot so good I swore I would never take it apart. While at a shoot a few months ago I had to take it apart. I could have gotten sick I was so upset. I shot it and shot it. It was shooting 1/2" groups at 50 yds. So I emailed Leroy and he gave me a little advice. I did it, and shot some ammo I knew was a decent lot. Here are the results(shot oustide-5 shots at 50 yds). I think she is back. Thanks for the advice Leroy!!!

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Old 08-20-2011, 11:08 AM
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What did you do differently to resolve your issue and restore the accuracy?
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Old 08-20-2011, 01:17 PM
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I took the action completeley out of the stock and reset it to make sure it wasn't on a bind. I have read on this site to reset the screws to 35 inlbs on the front screw and 25 on the back. That didn't work. So I emailed Leroy, since he put it in the stock originally, he told me to just snug them up pretty tight and it should shoot in. I did what he said and she came to life again.
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Old 08-20-2011, 06:15 PM
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I took the action completeley out of the stock and reset it to make sure it wasn't on a bind. I have read on this site to reset the screws to 35 inlbs on the front screw and 25 on the back. That didn't work. So I emailed Leroy, since he put it in the stock originally, he told me to just snug them up pretty tight and it should shoot in. I did what he said and she came to life again.

I bet if you really checked, you will not even be close to 20 in. lbs. Everyone says to go tight, but all of my rifles shoot best in the 12-18 in. lb. torque range. Anything much over 20 is too tight for a rimfire.
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Old 08-20-2011, 06:54 PM
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In my experience, Gizzy is right on
During the One-Shot a couple of years ago, I had Cooper fix a minor extraction problem with my M57 LVT (not 57M). They removed the stock and re-installed it.
Would not shoot worth beans. Loosened the screws and tightened them up as mentioned. It was like different rifle, back to the 1 hole groups.
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Old 08-20-2011, 07:08 PM
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These are pretty darn tight. I was shooting OK groups and loosened them. The groups got bigger. So I tightened them up just a smige from where I started. I guess I will see. It may go to hell the next time I shoot but I hope not.
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Old 08-22-2011, 05:08 AM
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So...What you guys are saying is that if the trigger guard screws are over tight than that changes the accuracy? What if you have a torque wrench and tight it down to what the manu. says. (35 front. & 25 rear). Is that the way it should've been? I mean, after you each time that you take the barrel off from the stock and put it back that's waht I'd do.
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Old 08-22-2011, 09:35 AM
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Action screw tightness

Years ago, Rob Behr said that if you were going to take the action out of the stock, make a pencil "witness" mark on the stock, retighten the screws to that point.

Rob used to tell me that when they were shooting the rifle for proof, they sometimes had to giggle the screw tightness to get the best results.

In my centerfires I've never found that the torque made any difference.

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Old 08-22-2011, 10:27 AM
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I bet if you really checked, you will not even be close to 20 in. lbs. Everyone says to go tight, but all of my rifles shoot best in the 12-18 in. lb. torque range. Anything much over 20 is too tight for a rimfire.
15 inch lb seems to be a good starting point.

If additional or less torque I'd required, always loosen the screws up w/ a regular screw driver, then use your torque driver or torque wrench to reset them.
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Thats what all the noise was last Wednesday ? you ready to go win some money now ?
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Old 08-24-2011, 10:43 AM
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I just want to Thank you for posting this thread.

Last weekend I went to the range and was blaming the wind for my open groups, even with known good ammo. Now I realize I had taken the JSR apart for a cleaning earlier. I'll be going back to the range this weekend with some new knowledge.
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Old 08-24-2011, 10:14 PM
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Thats what all the noise was last Wednesday ? you ready to go win some money now ?
I am ready but I won't be able to for a couple of months. At least I think my gun is right now!!!
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I just want to Thank you for posting this thread.

Last weekend I went to the range and was blaming the wind for my open groups, even with known good ammo. Now I realize I had taken the JSR apart for a cleaning earlier. I'll be going back to the range this weekend with some new knowledge.
No problem. I hope you get it worked out.
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Old 08-25-2011, 09:17 PM
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Rob Behr is back in the firearms business
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Now that's some great shooting an a gorgeous rifle. Cooper and Canyon Creek do it right!
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