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Old 05-16-2019, 02:18 PM
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The weather said the wind was 12mph, but judging by the tails on my wind flags, I think 5mph was more accurate.
There was one shot high and right that was a result of me touching the trigger with a finger while closing the bolt.
Fortunately it didn't go completely off target. With a two oz trigger it is very easy to screw up. With that being said, it is part of my group.

The target was shot with a custom rifle. Lonestar action, Shilen ratchet barrel, Jewel trigger, Harrel tuner,
Night Force 42X Competition scope, put together by Gene Davis. Ammo is Eley Match lot number 1018-01212.






That is about as good as it gets with the 22lr.
32 fps ES calcs to 3.2 inches of vertical spread.
You beat the computation, excellent results!

Beautiful setup and range, SF.

Apply the half third rule, 3.2 inches at 200 yards, 1.1 inches at 100 yards, 0.34 inches at 50 yards, for 50 shots.

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Old 05-16-2019, 02:47 PM
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Got out to the range this morning to do my first [email protected] target. I have a new appreciation for what Jaia regularly. The weather said the wind was 12mph, but judging by the tails on my wind flags, I think 5mph was more accurate.

There was one shot high and right that was a result of me touching the trigger with a finger while closing the bolt. Fortunately it didn't go completely off target. With a two oz trigger it is very easy to screw up. With that being said, it is part of my group.

The target was shot with a custom rifle. Lonestar action, Shilen ratchet barrel, Jewel trigger, Harrel tuner, Night Force 42X Competition scope, put together by Gene Davis. Ammo is Eley Match lot number 1018-01212.

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Sorry for the two pictures not being up and down. I tried to turn them but it is beyond my limited computer skills.
Sodfarmer--- turned or not (the pics), that is some REALLY good shooting. 32ES on that ammo helped a lot, but that rifle obviously SHOOTS! My jaw dropped when I saw that 200 yd group. Very nicely done. I do a bit of 200 yd prone-with-a-sling matches locally, and could only dream of shooting a group like that. I realize that group was shot from a benchrest, but "dayum" (as Jaia would say). Now you need to show us some grouping from a few other ammo types. I know it's a lot of work. I just received my new chronograph (ProChrono DLX) and hope to participate in this [email protected] thread as well when I get things sorted. Thanks for taking the time and posting results.
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Old 05-16-2019, 03:16 PM
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Among all of the lot numbers of Eley Match that I have, that one is by far the best. I have no idea why they didn't sell it as Tennex. None of the Tennex numbers I have found are as accurate as this lot of Match. I'll shoot some other lot numbers of Eley to compare.
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Old 05-16-2019, 03:21 PM
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That is about as good as it gets with the 22lr.
32 fps ES calcs to 3.2 inches of vertical spread.
You beat the computation, excellent results!

Beautiful setup and range, SF.

Apply the half third rule, 3.2 inches at 200 yards, 1.1 inches at 100 yards, 0.34 inches at 50 yards, for 50 shots.
That my friend is awesome!
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Old 05-16-2019, 03:30 PM
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Outstanding group

Outstanding group. Everything working as it should. Congratulations.
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Old 05-17-2019, 11:15 AM
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Have I commented enough on how poorly I shoot with a tailwind?

If not, let me complain one more time.

Tailwinds annoy me, not just a little, but heaps and heaps.
The breeze sweeps down off the pines to the west,
then tumbles across the metal roof over the benches,
before boiling downrange and rendering my wind flags useless.
The turbulence has the flags indicating contradictory directions and speeds.
As a consequence every squeeze of the trigger is a gamble.
This morning I lost almost every time.

Federal UltraMatch 40 grain 22lr made by RWS, rated 1080 fps.
It's R50 (see the fine print on the end flap) with a different label on the box.

Wind from the southwest at 4 to 8 mph, swinging from my 4 to my 7
AAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRGGGGGGGHHHHHHH!



1131 fps high, 1093 avg, 1084 low for 50 shots.
ES of 47 fps is not good enough for use in benchrest competition.

Attempting the [email protected] for score, I realized I could do a manual overlay for the 50 shot group size.
Align each shot target over a single unshot target and mark the individual bullet holes.



There were no consistent trajectories.
Hold left, it'd go right.
Hold right and it'd fall out the bottom.
Hold a hair low it'd end up high and left.
By the second target all I could do was laugh.

You'd figure I'd of learned by now to stay home when the wind was from the Southwest
but I'm a sucker for punishment. Besides, it keeps me humble.

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Old 05-18-2019, 08:10 AM
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I feel your pain! Cross winds, I can deal with. Head and tail winds make a monkey out of me.
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Old 05-18-2019, 09:42 AM
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Some days are better than other SF.
This morning was quite nice. Cool for Florida, and calm.

Aguila Super Extra 40 grain 22lr, rated 1130 fps.

455 Varmint, Lilja, Sinclair



14 fail to fires on the first try. Extracted, rotated 120 degrees, all went bang on the second try.



With 94 fps ES matching the 9.5 inches of vertical spread along with the ftf's, not quality rimfire.

I hand chamber each round and can feel the variations in cartridge dimensions.
Some of the Aguila slid in with room to spare, others argued and require some oomph.
It explains the lateral spread during a morning when conditions were so cooperative.
When the cartridges vary that much in size and shape, so do the results.
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Old 05-18-2019, 09:50 AM
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Aguila Super Extra 38 grain CP hollowpoint rated 1280 fps

455 Varmint, Lilja, Sinclair





Visible cartridge defects. Irregular cannelures.
6 ftf that went bang on the second try, almost 100 fps ES.

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Old 05-19-2019, 10:47 AM
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That time of year, mirage starts early.
Shimmer shows up by 9:30 am, at 10 it becomes an annoyance.
I was packing up at 9:45.

Remington Cyclone 36 grain hollowpoint 22lr rated 1280 fps

455 Varmint, Lilja, Sinclair






Cheap bulk ammo
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Old 05-19-2019, 10:55 AM
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Aguila Super Extra 40 grain copper plated 22lr, rated 1255 fps

455 Varmint, Lilja, Sinclair





Nothing special, plinking ammo.
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Old 05-19-2019, 10:15 PM
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Not quite the same thing you are looking for here, but as close as Ive been able thus far.....Fwiw, I had very good results out to 200 this past weekend's silhouette shoot with The orange box RWS Target Rifle from my Stevens 416 'X Barrel' with a 4x(?) Wollensak (pre-WWII package) seated on a turkey chair with cross sticks. The 200yd rams are properly scaled for that and most of my 7 of the 10 hits/knock downs were not in the margins. Winds were variable gusty tail and switchy in steady overcast so there was no mirage or sun effects, all wind, ammo and shooter.
40 shot match, 4 banks of 10 critters, 50, 100,150,200yd; total score of 30. Cant really compare the 50yd chix with anything here because it is offhand, but the rest are off cross sticks and this rifle and ammo combo was close to placing (5th place overall). Considering the kill zone and my poi's this ammo lot in this rifle was better than much of what has been posted here. No misfires, no off sounding reports, just consistent performance through all the spotter and match shots, about 65 in all.
I will use this again.
Looking through your RWS results Im quite sure that the lot I used above in my rifle at least equaled, if not bettered your best targets shown as my spotter calls were well in the center of mass zone on most shots and the 7 misses off sticks were mostly left or right due to wind or called errors but for 2.
Just goes to show each rifle is an individual and getting lucky with a lot is a wonderful thing.

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Old 05-20-2019, 05:05 PM
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50 at 200

Any insight on Prime 22LR 40gr. Performance+ ammo by anyone?
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Old 05-20-2019, 05:11 PM
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Prime 22lr is relabeled RWS.
Not the good RWS, the cheap RWS.
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Old 05-20-2019, 05:18 PM
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Prime 22lr is relabeled RWS.
Not the good RWS, the cheap RWS.
Thank you, Sir! Target Sports offering sale on 22lr ammo...Pass.
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