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I will be doing probably mostly bag in front and rear type shooting , some standing also would be nice. But I get your point and thanks for bringing that up.
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woodyt - to RFC.

I think the CZ 45x Varmint rifle, or the 457 MTR might be a good choice as well. CZ has disappointed very few people with the precision you get for the price.

I can't say anything bad about a rifle with an Anschutz 54 action, those actions are the best I've ever seen in a production rifle.

You've some some "fun" research work to do, let us know what you decide and then give us a range report, too.
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Another vote for the Tikka. It is a great rifle to learn your capabilities and techniques with and then can get your money back out of it when going for a top of the line Anschutz of your choice.
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I would not pass up a good deal on a 64 action. They can be amazingly accurate with the proper ammo.
I shoot both 54 and 64 actions. Some days I shoot better with the 54s, other days I shoot better with the 64 actions.
Shooters of 54 actions sometimes tend to engage in a bit of misguided snobbery.
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Wow lots more to think about here I can see that. I'm thinking getting a Tikka or CZ for now and just shoot, then look for a used 54/64 .Thanks again to all

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Wow lots more to think about here I can see that. I'm thinking getting a Tikka or CZ for now and just shoot, then look for a used 54/64 .Thanks again to all

If you buy wisely, this is not a bad idea, as you can always resell if you wish and get most if not all your initial investment back. In the meantime, you can do research and gain experience to help you make a better decision when you consider investing in a more expensive gun.



Some things to keep in mind is this....when considering the accuracy potential of a gun, pay no attention to the the claims made for individual examples. Rather, take a look at the average accuracy expectations and results of a particular model/make. While it is a true for example that a particular example of a 64 action gun may out shoot a particular example of a 54 action, it is equally true that a particular Savage or CZ may out shoot a particular Anschutz. But the odds are against it, and there is no doubt that the average 54 Anschutz is going to be more accurate than the average 64 action; therefore your chances of getting a good one are better with the 54. Also bear in mind that quality tends to correlate closely with cost. Investment in a quality firearm is not like pouring money down a stump hole. If taken care of, the investment is still there.
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Old 04-23-2019, 09:40 AM
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Why not look for a used Anschutz now instead of settling for something else? It may be just as easy to find an Anschutz.

One thing to keep in mind is the 54 sporter is heavier than the 64 sporter. My 54s are a joy to shoot off the bench but I prefer my 64s for shooting offhand or walking through the forest.

Mine are all sporters. I have no experience with target or match models.
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Old 04-23-2019, 10:48 AM
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[QUOTE=Bottom Gun;11455205]Why not look for a used Anschutz now instead of settling for something else?

Because this is RFC and you're NOT KOOL unless you have a Tikka or a CZ.

Why would one set out to shoot targets and actually buy a target rifle???
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Old 04-25-2019, 06:21 PM
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Start off with an affordable 22lR

I see there are many providing advice on buying a rifle in the $1000+ range but that is not what I would do. I have a CZ 455 that shoots 1-2" moa at 100 yards.
So if you wanted to take up golf would you go out and buy the best clubs out there?
Ask anyone if there 22LR is the only one they own. Buying an Anschutz doesn't mean you will be a great marksman or you will continue to shoot only 22LR. There are some GREAT rifles that will get you started in the $400/600 range. Do some "YouTube" watching and be open-minded and avoid the Big $$$$ snobs.
And take a gun safety course!
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Buy an older Annie 54 action or a Walther

I have maybe 50 22LR target rifles. For the money the older Annies and Walthers have been the best buys under $1,000. DO NOT buy an Annie with a 64 action. Most of the ones that I have owned have been mediocre shooters. I have gotten a Walther KKM that was maybe 40 years old for under $600. Great gun for the money. However another KKM does not seem to want to chamber some of the rounds that I want to shoot. Never had a problem with an Annie. I have bought most of my guns via Gunbroker. I like the feedback system which encourages but does not guarantee good behaviour from sellers. Check out the ratings of a seller before buying. Good luck!
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There are good deals to be found if you look in the right places at the right times.
Iíve bought three used Anschutz 1416 rifles in the past. Two were in the $300-$400 range, the third was $500. One showed signs of use but is an excellent shooter, the other two are superb shooters in mint condition. All were private sales within the past few years.
My 64 actions are excellent shooters. I would not hesitate to buy another if the price was right.

One the other hand, I paid dearly for both of my 54 actions and some days Iím hard pressed to see any difference in accuracy between them and the 64 actions. Other days, my 54s will outshoot the 64s but not by much. Then occasionally my 64s will have a lucky day and be top dog. I think it all depends on the shooter and the ammo.
For me, the 64 actions were better values than the 54 actions were.

I would definitely not let anyone discourage me from buying a 64 if I were in the market for a fine rifle. In my opinion, those that tell you to avoid the 64 action are giving you bad advice.
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