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Old 06-15-2015, 06:41 PM
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Instead of the standard muzzle weight on the Daisy Avanti, I thought I might have a better idea.
My guess is that there's not much that's quieter than a ~500 fps suppressed .177.
The necessary adaptor is a Euro-style 1911-22 1/2"x28 adaptor, modified to be a precision slip-fit to the 0.442" diameter 853 bbl.
A bit of clear nail polish provided a secure mounting while still having the ability to remove the adaptor if needed.

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15-yard benchrest
SWR SpectreII .22RF suppressor
Leupold M8 2x IER-type scope, parallax-adjusted to 25 Edit: 15 yds.
The scope mount is a B-Square mount originally designed for the Baikal IZH-46, detailed in my 853 Scout Rifle thread here.
21 different pellet brands / styles were tested
Qty.2, 5-shot groups (shot subsequently after an initial pellet for air cylinder warmup / bore seasoning)
(Occasionally a third 5-shot group was done with the same style pellet but out of a different production lot to verify performance.)





Over 240 pellets fired, sending ~1/4 lb of lead "downrange".



Results: (average of two 5-shot groups)
  • Beeman 7.2gr - Hollow point: 0.27"
  • Beeman 7.7gr - Wadcutter: 0.25"
  • Crosman 7.4gr Competition - Wadcutter: 0.61" (A disappointing pellet for me, performing below average in my IZH-46M and Diana M27 as well)
  • Crosman 7.9gr Copperhead - Pointed: 0.18" (old-stock & discontinued)
  • Crosman 7.9gr Copperhead - Wadcutter: 0.46" (old-stock & discontinued)
  • Crosman 7.45gr Hunting - Pointed: 0.32"
  • Crosman 7.9gr Premier - Hollow point: 0.27"
  • Crosman 7.9gr Premier Light - Domed: 0.20"
  • Daisy Precision Max 7.8gr - Wadcutter: 0.31"
  • Gamo 7.56gr Hunter - Domed: 0.50"
  • Gamo 7.87gr Magnum - Pointed: 0.27"
  • Gamo 7.56gr Master Point - Pointed: 0.40"
  • Gamo 7.71gr Match - Wadcutter: 0.20"
  • RWS 7.0gr Diabolo Basic - Wadcutter: 0.26"
  • RWS 7.0gr Hobby - Wadcutter: 0.21"
  • RWS 7.0gr MK Pistol - Wadcutter: 0.39" (Another disappointing pellet in other testing)
  • RWS 8.2gr MK Rifle - Wadcutter: 0.33" (A bit of a surprise here, as these MK's have performed near the top in other testing I've done)
  • RWS 8.2gr R-10 Match - Wadcutter: (skipped due to MK's mediocre performance in this test)
  • RWS 7.7gr Superdome - Domed: 0.19" (old-stock)
  • RWS 7.8gr Super-H-Point - HP: 0.20" (old-stock, discontinued weight)
  • RWS 7.7gr Superpoint - Pointed: 0.26" (old-stock)
  • Vogel 8.1gr Merlin Match - Wadcutter: 0.18"
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The budget victory goes to the Gamo Match Wadcutter (again), which is one of the top-performing pellets in my Diana Model 27 as well.

Ultimate victory for new-production pellets is a bit of a tie (along with the Gamo Match WC's cited above):
  • Crosman Premier Light (domed), 0.20" & 0.20" 5-shot groups
  • Gamo Match (wadcutter), 0.21" & 0.19" 5-shot groups
  • Vogel Merlin Match (wadcutter), 0.22" & 0.14" 5-shot groups
The Crosman Premier Lights were selected for final sighting-in (yielding 3-shot groups of 0.10", 0.16" 0.09", and 0.25") due to their round-nose shape retaining accuracy to 25 yds & beyond - where my prior testing has shown wadcutters to be inferior.

Furthermore, I have over 4,000 of these pellets (of the same production lot), so needless to say I'm set for field practice now.

It was very fortuitous for the Vogel Merlin Match to perform well with this airgun configuration, as they have performed below average in my other testing (including 'bare-barrel' scoped 853 testing) - and I have 5,000 of these, purchased a few years ago in a fit of optimism.

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The aggregate MOA for this particular air rifle calculates to 2.0 MOA for all pellets at this tested range of 15 yds.
The MOA for the best-performing pellets calculates to 1.2 MOA, an interesting parallel to the 1.3 (15-yd) MOA from my scoped IZH-46M (that test is here).

Thanks for reading,

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Old 06-16-2015, 06:10 AM
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We need a movie Kestral so we can hear how quiet she is, Nice setup,noticed no holes in the wall behind the target can,Good shooting
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Old 06-16-2015, 01:03 PM
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Good write up. Seems like those Crossman Premier pellets shoot good in many air guns and they are easy to find. Just buy the a the local big box stores. I think I just saw some 10 grain Premiers at Walmart. They shoot a little better at 25 yds in my Weihrauch HW77 than the 7 grainers.

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Old 06-16-2015, 02:54 PM
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Great pellet test, glad you found a gun that loved the CPL's. I bet is was a lot of fun too!
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Old 06-18-2015, 10:42 AM
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[...] Nice setup,noticed no holes in the wall behind the target can,Good shooting
What, you mean that hole?



I confess, the target setup pic I used in my first post was a 'file pic' I used from my last test, I added the offending hole earlier this year.

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Old 06-18-2015, 10:48 AM
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Great pellet test, glad you found a gun that loved the CPL's. I bet is was a lot of fun too!
Ah, yes thank you. I checked my correspondence to see who I had purchased that large lot from but I had already deleted those PM's.
Buying that many pellets was a bit of leap of faith for a pellet I've never tried, but they are one of the best in my Diana Model 27 as well.

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Old 06-18-2015, 10:57 AM
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So last evening I took four of my top candidates and did a shoot-out along with a chronograph:
(Doing two more 5-shot groups per pellet style)

Crosman Premier Light (RN): 0.19", 0.10"
Gamo Match (WC): 0.14", 0.22"
RWS Super-H-Point (HP): 0.19", 0.17"
Vogel Merlin Match (WC): 0.16, 0.15"

An overall average of 1.1 MOA for all of the above (@ 15 yds), I'm quite pleased.



The squares are 1 7/8" wide in the horizontal dimension, so the Crosman's are sighted in to be 1" high from point-of-aim @ 15 yds.
The nice thing about that trajectory is it gives me a 'zero' at 6 yds for my garage range, and a MPBR (plus/minus 1") of 30 yds for field shooting.

You can see the slight point-of-impact shifts between the four designs, which is another thing I needed to know:
I want to use the wadcutters for off-hand paper-punching in my garage range, while utilizing the ballistically-superior RN & HP profiles for longer-range field shooting.

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Old 06-18-2015, 11:14 AM
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... and the chronograph data:

Crosman Premier Light (7.9gr)
Muzzle velocity: 479 fps avg.
Standard deviation: 6 fps
(479,476,488,487,486,475,473,475,475,471)

Gamo Match (7.7gr)
Muzzle velocity: 483 fps avg.
Standard deviation: 7 fps
(475,478,479,480,478,482,488,501,486,486)

RWS Super-H-Point (7.8gr)
Muzzle velocity: 495 fps avg.
Standard deviation: 5 fps
(490,502,492,491,501,492,496,491,490,501)

Vogel Merlin Match (8.1gr)
Muzzle velocity: 480 fps avg.
Standard deviation: 4 fps
(483,480,483,481,484,474,472,482,481,477)

Outstanding standard-deviations on the above velocity data IMO.

Two other things to note:
  • This 853 definitely prefers pellets in the above weight range rather than most of the lighter pellets (7.0gr - 7.5gr).
  • The Crosman Premier Lights are slightly slower than expected due to their almost-excessively tight fit to the bore - velocity behavior I noticed with these and other pellets in my Diana Model 27 as well.

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Old 06-18-2015, 11:17 AM
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The quality control inspector the next morning:



Cats sure like to be in funny places.
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Watching for that snake to move again?
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The quality control inspector the next morning:



Cats sure like to be in funny places.

AH YES,

My cat she used to annoy the heck out of me by going off to the side downrange of the shooting lane "in protest". Do miss her.
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Looking over your pellet posts. Enjoyed this one and the izh46m.

Thank you,

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