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Old 08-03-2010, 07:24 PM
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Bought a GECO 22lr trainer at a garage sale. Looks like a K98, single shot, 5.4mm (22lr). Made in the thirties, Spandau, Germany.

Anyone have any info about these rifles? Value?
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Old 08-03-2010, 08:59 PM
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geco

nope, not a lizard...

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=173151647

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Old 08-03-2010, 09:02 PM
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could be this one too:

http://www.ignomini.com/guns/riflepics/gecoaction.jpg
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Old 08-03-2010, 10:21 PM
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That one looks real nice.
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Old 08-03-2010, 10:28 PM
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Here's another GECO with a different action.

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=182421659
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Old 08-04-2010, 03:17 PM
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Guess that it's the $1,000 rifle on Gunbroker. Mine does not have the inscription on the buttstock, but close enough. Now I've got to get a cleaning rod, or make one.

Thanks for the help.
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Old 08-23-2010, 11:31 PM
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Exclamation GECO dsm34

Another version: Mine has the bolt disassembly 'doughnut', the K98k-type sling attachments, and a false cleaning rod. And she is ONE SWEET SHOOTER!

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Another version: Mine has the bolt disassembly 'doughnut', the K98k-type sling attachments, and a false cleaning rod. And she is ONE SWEET SHOOTER!

I know this is an OLD thread but I just acquired a GECO like that in fair shape but someone sporterized the stock.
Does anyone know where I can get a good stock with the wood upper forearm and false cleaning rod for my rifle? It's a complete rifle and shootable but I'd like to put it back to a more as issued condition.
Also, are the stocks marked as to whom the manufacturer of the stock was?
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Old 10-16-2021, 08:13 AM
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The rifle shown is a DSM34, made or marked by a dozen or so companies and all to the same standard pattern. Theres a guy in Poland that makes a replacement stock and handguard. No firsthand knowledge but I’ve read his work is excellent. IIRC maybe $350, but dont depend on my memory.

A used stock could show up tomorrow but more likely be a very long search.

Have you considered restoring your stock? I have no particular woodworking skills but managed to restore an ERMA dsm34 that had been duffle cut with missing piece. Missing handguard and all the associated hardware. . Turned out ok. Lucky for me I was able to make the splice under the lower band.

Ive reproduced some stacking rods and handguard clips. The upper band can be made from a k98 stamped H band. The handguard can be made from a Swedish Mauser handguard.
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Old 10-16-2021, 07:29 PM
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wiilliwm,
Thanks for the info, but $359 is way to much for my budget. I'm a disabled Vietnam vet so money can be tight.
Maybe if I stumble across a good correct stock and parts I'll put it back to looking correct but for now I'll just enjoy it as an occasional shooter.
My rifle was gifted to me by a long time friend.
My rifle doesn't look as nice as yours. It was stored in a basement which had flooded but the water itself never reached the rifle. It had a lot of surface rust which I removed 95% of with a Big 45 pad, it actually cleaned up pretty nicely
The bore is very good and the original sights are intact.
Barrel, receiver and bolt are matching serial numbered, 552X .
The stock has been sporterized but someone did a nice job on it.
It feeds, shoots very well and extracts.
However the safety has been removed by someone well before I received the rifle.
Questions are as follows,
1, are the safeties particular to the Geco DSM 34's or will a Kar 98 centerfire or will other DSM 34 safety work in it?

2, does the bolt disassemble the same as a Kar98?

3, does anyone have some good photos of the wooden stock components, barrel band(s) and faux cleaning rod?

4, were there any markings on the stock indicating if the stock was made by a particular
manufacturer?

5, two part question. How can I determine when the rifle was manufactured and is there a site that shows what the proof marks mean? My rifle has two crowns stamped on the barrel and receiver with two 1 digit numbers or letters also.

I appreciate any and all help.

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Old 10-16-2021, 08:18 PM
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1, are the safeties particular to the Geco DSM 34's or will a Kar 98 centerfire or will other DSM 34 safety work in it?

Dsm34 safeties for for the most part interchangeable regardless of the manufacturer. Minor fitting might be needed. No other safeties will fit.Reproduction safeties are available, they are well made, unfinished run about $60 and the finished ones run about $100. I bought several and finished fitting them with a set of needle files. I think the maker, falgrunt, lists them on gunbroker and maybe ebay.

2, does the bolt disassemble the same as a Kar98?

Been 45 years since I touched a k98 bolt , cant remember

3, does anyone have some good photos of the wooden stock components, barrel band(s) and faux cleaning rod? Ill post a few photos later of the rod, called a stacking rod and some of the other hardware youd need. Unless someone else has photos to post

4, were there any markings on the stock indicating if the stock was made by a particular
manufacturer?

The stocks were serial numbered to the rifle, an advanced collector might be able to recognize a particular maker but Ive never dove that deep into stock manufacturers, the larger manufacturers would have made their own stocks probably ,

5, two part question. How can I determine when the rifle was manufactured and is there a site that shows what the proof marks mean? My rifle has two crowns stamped on the barrel and receiver with two 1 digit numbers or letters also.

The dsm34s were introduced in 1934 and some small changes were made in 1936. For identification ,The loading port was changed from a rectangular shape to a somewhat oval shape. Id guess that under the crowns are the letters b u g , these would be on rifles made prior to 1940

Anyone feel free to correct or add,
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Old 10-16-2021, 08:26 PM
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Here should be a photo of the stacking rod(an original with one I made. They are a little less than 6 lone. also a photo of the handguard retainer that goes between the handguard and the rear sight, an original with one I made.
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Old 10-16-2021, 08:58 PM
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Here is a photo of a dsm made in 1934 or 1935, notice how the loading/ejection port has a rectangular shape,.
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Old 10-16-2021, 09:02 PM
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Way kewl rifles!
Fwiw, a good friend has made front wood for a couple of cut down rifles. He tries to find wood that has similar grain and color, even test stains to check for how to match before doing a lot of woodwork. He says they arent that hard to make once you have some suitable wood and just decide to do it
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Old 10-16-2021, 09:07 PM
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Here is the loading / ejection port on one made in or after 1936. This happens to be a commercial mauser 22 but the loading port is identical to the dsms of 1936 or after.
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