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Old 12-04-2019, 07:24 AM
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I finally got my Vudoo up and running for the first time yesterday. I got to the range on the late side and once finished sighting in the scope there wasn't too much daylight left. 50 yard group sizes measured ctc were: .231 - CCI SV, .230 and .409 - RWS R50, .253 - Center-X, and .436 - SK Rifle Match.
The nest nice day I'll start testing in earnest and post results. Look like it may be harder to find something it doesn't shoot well.
Id be surprised if center x wouldnt have shot better than cvi sv if you reversed their shooting order. Or did you clean between each brand of ammo?
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Old 12-04-2019, 08:48 AM
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Id be surprised if center x wouldnt have shot better than cvi sv if you reversed their shooting order. Or did you clean between each brand of ammo?
It's worth keeping in mind that ammo is made in batches called lots and the results produced downrange can vary according to lot. In other words, two different lots of the same ammo -- Center X, for example -- may not shoot the same with the same rifle. Furthermore, before drawing firm conclusions about the accuracy of any ammo or any lot of ammo it's important to shoot a good number of groups to have a better sample size of results.
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Old 12-04-2019, 09:42 AM
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It's worth keeping in mind that ammo is made in batches called lots and the results produced downrange can vary according to lot. In other words, two different lots of the same ammo -- Center X, for example -- may not shoot the same with the same rifle. Furthermore, before drawing firm conclusions about the accuracy of any ammo or any lot of ammo it's important to shoot a good number of groups to have a better sample size of results.
This is the answer. It's the lot# that shoots well. I tested with 5 different lots of CenterX. One of the lots was absolutely off. If I had just shot that lot and measured the results, I would have come to the conclusion that my rifle didn't "like" CenterX. (Luckily I got a good lot too, and I bought as much as I could afford!)
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Old 12-04-2019, 10:08 AM
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Cuzz makes a good point about the testing variables like clean barrel and order of testing, but unless your pockets are extremely deep you have to narrow the number of ammo brands and types down somehow before you get really serious about testing further. The issue with lots complicates matters even more because we've all seen that. I have 2 different lots of R50 because my CZ455 liked the first one so much. The second lot isn't bad but not as good as the first.
Of the cheapy practice, practice, practice stuff CCI SV is almost always decent in all my 22s and the lot I have now and Cuzz referred to is very, very good except for that occasional flyer. If I knew how good it was right off the bat, I'd have bought 10,000 rounds of the stuff. Sadly it's old and I can't find anymore of it.
To me, all of the above is why this topic is worthwhile, you just can't test it all yourself and while all guns are different (within one brand why is that?) it can show trends to help us/me buy with at least a slight advantage. Kind of makes me wish jaia had a Vudoo.
At any rate, after it gets narrowed down even further, testing will get far more serious (Labradar and all that). It's a great excuse to spend more time over the stock.
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Old 12-04-2019, 08:13 PM
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cci sv

Hey Sof is the new sv not as good as it used to be or do you just have to find a good batch?
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Old 12-05-2019, 03:43 PM
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Pure luck Cuzz. It isn't all that old, I bought it early this year. I just bought a new case, but haven't even opened it yet. The lot that put up the really good groups was also very good in my CZ.
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