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Old 10-09-2021, 04:43 PM
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At least your case is a good argument for having more than one of the same gun.
I have one 1964 Ruger Single Six Convertible, still shoots like new even after thousands of rounds. One is all I will ever need. My Kimel, precursor to the Rough Rider, sits in the safe gathering dust, as it should.
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Old 10-10-2021, 12:47 AM
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I'm sure in this day and age, they are just legally covering their butts having someone who's factory qualified to look over/repair it.

After all, they are most likely the ones to be sued/absorb all legal costs if someone was to get injured by it later on.

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I could see that, but if Ruger sends me out a firing pin, as I described above, that’s just as important a part as a revolver’s bolt. Same thing with Canik a few years ago. The firing pin/striker broke in two so Canik promptly sent me a new firing pin. And that was just an email conversation.

I know that just because Canik and Ruger send essential parts out to their customers who are able to do the work themselves, that doesn’t mean that Heritage (Taurus) has to have the same policy. Look at these true examples that I personally experienced, though, Ruger’s business is booming, as is Canik’s who started aggressively selling their TP9 series guns just a few years ago. They treat their customers well. It’s a terrific business model - treat your customers well and they’ll keep coming back for more. As far as I am concerned, I made Heritage’s job easier and I’m saving them money by doing the nitty gritty myself. Unfortunately they choose to waste their company’s money and time and not reward the customer who does respect the concept of saving time and money. Heritage cannot stand on their own two feet and had to be bought out by Taurus to survive. They should take a lesson from Ruger and maybe they’d still be their own company.

I do feel the need to say that this is certainly not the end of the world in terms of importance to me. I can buy the part aftermarket from a number of different choices of sellers for around 15 to 25 bucks. And I got to learn a little more about revolvers while repairing this one. However, like a lot of firearm enthusiasts, I do take my gun purchases very seriously and I want my experiences with the manufacturer to go smoothly.

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Old 10-10-2021, 12:50 AM
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I hope that Heritage sends you a new bolt.

At least your case is a good argument for having more than one of the same gun.

It was nice of you to document your findings; this info could prove useful to someone else.
Thanks toomanyguns!

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Old 10-10-2021, 12:58 AM
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Worst case, just a little Tig or Mig and reprofile to match the one that works.
I will probably try that at some point, yes. But I think I’ll just end up buying a new bolt for now and hope it is also not defective (I think itll be fine). Frankly, I am getting kind of tired of taking the Rough Riders apart and putting them back together so many times! Haha!

Kidding aside, that is one of the reasons that I do not want the hassle of sending it in at this point. If I did send it in, I would have to remove the working bolt that is in there from the 6-1/2” and put the defective one back in the 3-1/2” before sending it to Georgia. If I just get a new bolt, it’ll save me time in disassembling it and reassembling it again.
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Old 10-10-2021, 05:46 PM
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Thanks for chiming in Petey!


Even though I know my post wasn't all that helpful in the scheme of things I hope you get things ultimately sorted out to your satisfaction.
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Old 10-10-2021, 07:50 PM
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Thanks for chiming in Petey!
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Even though I know my post wasn't all that helpful in the scheme of things I hope you get things ultimately sorted out to your satisfaction. <img src="https://www.rimfirecentral.com/forums/images/smilies/tup.gif" border="0" alt="" title="thumb" class="inlineimg" />
If someone here takes time out of their busy day to write to me herr, I really do appreciate it! And thank you also - I certainly hope it’ll come out to my satisfaction, too, although I do not expect it to, based on past experience. It’s too bad because I was actually thinking of buying some fancy aesthetic accessories for my Rough Riders, as Heritage sells them directly to consumers from their website. But, when they do not show appreciation for their customers (me), it takes away some of that excitement and desire to spend money that goes back to them.

But again, it’s certainly not the end of the world. I do have a couple of Heritage revolvers that are very affordable, and are a great time to shoot, and that is definitely worthwhile!
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Old 10-13-2021, 10:16 AM
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Taurus/Heritage called. I asked why they will not send me a replacement bolt, even if I sent them the defective one. You guessed it: liability. Which is really shortsighted in my opinion. But, I guess with all those lawsuits that Taurus had to settle, they are quite “gun shy.”

As some suggested, on the defective bolt, I am going to try filing a sharper angle in between the front hump shaped cylinder latch and the hump behind it. The goal would be to give the front latch a better fit to lock the cylinder in place. I actually do not think that there is enough meat on the bolt to be able to succeed with this, but it’ll cost me nothing to try it. So, as soon as I can make the time, I’ll update folks here.

And if that doesn’t work, there are plenty of places to buy a new bolt online for 20 to 25 bucks (as I told Heritage).
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Taurus /Heritage called. I asked why they will not send me a replacement bolt, even if I sent them the defective one. You guessed it: liability. Which is really shortsighted in my opinion. But, I guess with all those lawsuits that Taurus had to settle, they are quite “gun shy.
Even though they put picture/text warnings on gasoline powered lawnmowers not to put your hands under a running one, guess one of the injuries they see a few of in E.R.'s every Summer?

Most lawnmower companies will just pay the fingerless idiot a few too to keep it out of the expensive courtroom too.

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And if that doesn’t work, there are plenty of places to buy a new bolt online for 20 to 25 bucks (as I told Heritage).




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Observe the function of the bolt in action to determine what does what when and where. No sense removing material from the Wrong Place.
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Taurus /Heritage called. I asked why they will not send me a replacement bolt, even if I sent them the defective one. You guessed it: liability. Which is really shortsighted in my opinion. But, I guess with all those lawsuits that Taurus had to settle, they are quite “gun shy.
Even though they put picture/text warnings on gasoline powered lawnmowers not to put your hands under a running one, guess one of the injuries they see a few of in E.R.'s every Summer?

Most lawnmower companies will just pay the fingerless idiot a few too to keep it out of the expensive courtroom too.

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And if that doesn’t work, there are plenty of places to buy a new bolt online for 20 to 25 bucks (as I told Heritage).




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Yep, and they ruin it for the rest of us. Oh well.
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Before 'filing':
Observe the function of the bolt in action to determine what does what when and where. No sense removing material from the Wrong Place.
Yes, of course, it would be foolish to do it otherwise. Thank you. That is why I described it as I did above specifying the hump that seats itself into the slots of the cylinder to lock it in place at the appropriate time in its cycle. I have dial calipers and micrometers to compare exact sizes (as much as possible with simple tools anyway).

Making the time to do it is actually the hard part. The repair is the fun part!
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Yep, and they ruin it for the rest of us. Oh well.
At least you don't have to worry about them fingering your blued guns anymore.
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there are plenty of places to buy a new bolt online for 20 to 25 bucks
ebay? Numrich? ....

Just curious.
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there are plenty of places to buy a new bolt online for 20 to 25 bucks
ebay? Numrich? ....

Just curious.
Yes and Yes! Haha! Numrich’s is a couple more dollars than the same one on ebay, and then with shipping, Numrich’s would be over $30. That’s unusual for them, as you know I am sure.

Numrich sells a bolt that I would almost call universal. Apparently it can be used in a whole bunch of different SAA clones in 22LR by different manufacturers. I found the same one on ebay for 25 including shipping. It looks better quality than the original, but all I have seen is a picture of it.
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