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Old 09-29-2021, 07:38 PM
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Hodgdon Powder Company Closing GOEX Plant



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Effective immediately, Hodgdon Powder Company, Inc. has made the decision to cease manufacturing operations at the company’s Camp Minden, Louisiana site while evaluating strategic options for the black powder business.

The business will wind down operations while an evaluation process on the future of the black powder business takes place. Strategic options for the GOEX and Olde Eynsford brands of black powder, along with the manufacturing capabilities, will include a potential sale of the business. All affected employees will be retained through December 31, 2021 to assist in an orderly closing of the site and receive severance commensurate with their years of service to the company.

The Hodgdon Powder Co., Inc has been honored to have been a part of the GOEX Powder legacy and sustains a fond appreciation for sporting customers who have enjoyed shooting GOEX powders.

About Hodgdon Powder Company, Inc.

Established in 1947 by Bruce and Amy Hodgdon, today, sons J.B. and Bob have grown Hodgdon Powder Company into the largest US supplier of smokeless, blackpowder and blackpowder substitute propellants. The company distributes gunpowder under the Hodgdon®, IMR®, Ramshot®, Acccurate®, Winchester®, Pyrodex®, Triple Seven®, Blackhorn 209® and GOEX® brands.



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Old 09-29-2021, 08:07 PM
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Terrible news.
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Old 09-30-2021, 10:26 AM
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Sad, but It's all about Demand and Supply.

With the advent of BP substitutes, there is a very, very small group that utilizes/buys BP anymore.

In the last 15 yrs I have never met an individual that loaded BP in their muzzle-loader, it's always a BP substitute like Pyrodex, Triple Seven, or one of the others.

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Old 09-30-2021, 10:36 AM
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Going to be harder on those who enjoy their flintlocks…
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Old 09-30-2021, 03:04 PM
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True that. Those in Pennsylvania and the flintlock only season had better stock up.

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Old 09-30-2021, 04:27 PM
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Sad, but It's all about Demand and Supply.

With the advent of BP substitutes, there is a very, very small group that utilizes/buys BP anymore.

In the last 15 yrs I have never met an individual that loaded BP in their muzzle-loader, it's always a BP substitute like Pyrodex, Triple Seven, or one of the others.

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I disagree. All the traditional black powder shooters I know in Montana and Wyoming prefer the real black powder.

Also, the primary cause of the shutdown was the fire they had last Spring (June?). I suspect the decision to rebuild was purely a financial one.

Hopefully then can sell the plant to someone else, so they can continue production and compete with the two European manufacturers of black powder.

The substitutes work OK in modern in-lines, as well as some traditional percussion guns, but not in flintlocks. Also, the substitutes burn much hotter, contributing to barrels wearing out faster.
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Old 09-30-2021, 08:19 PM
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"The company distributes gunpowder under the Hodgdon®, IMR®, Ramshot®, Acccurate®, Winchester®, Pyrodex®, Triple Seven®, Blackhorn 209® and Goex."


Lots of Black Powder substituted on that list, I have been using 777.

Who else in the US makes Black Powder and Subtituted ?
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Sad, but It's all about Demand and Supply.

With the advent of BP substitutes, there is a very, very small group that utilizes/buys BP anymore.

In the last 15 yrs I have never met an individual that loaded BP in their muzzle-loader, it's always a BP substitute like Pyrodex, Triple Seven, or one of the others.

Craig...
it is not about supply and demand ,they can sell every pound of powder they can make,and it is still very popular all the long range BP shooters use real BP!
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Old 09-30-2021, 10:06 PM
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it is not about supply and demand ,they can sell every pound of powder they can make,and it is still very popular all the long range BP shooters use real BP!

It’s about profitability
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The history of Goex goes back to a storied name in the modern chemical scene, you may have heard of them: Dupont Nemours? Dupont sold their old plant to Goex, after they decided they'd had enough of the occasional explosions levelling the place over more than a century. Goex moved the old PA plant to LA after it got well & truly blowed up and was written off; iirc, it took them over 2 years to even make a decision about rebuilding a new plant. [Sorry, don't know if Goex was part of Hodgdon at that point or not] The BP business is an inherently risky one, and with the ever-tightening regulations on shipment & storage of BP it's more difficult to compete with overseas suppliers, esp. as there is lots of YT videos & online resources for those independent sorts who figure they can make their own if they really need it.

Not saying this isn't bad news, just that not entirely unexpected, esp. given the antipathy of the current occupant of the Oval Office for all things, you know, legal & proper for Americans to own & enjoy without govt. interference...

Meanwhile, Swiss BP is looking at a sales windfall! Maybe this will prod enterprising soul to bring back Elefant powder [or a similar marketing effort?]

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Sad to hear, but everything changes; we just have to adapt.

Reminds me of stories I've read about powder manufacture in the 1800's. When a plant blew up, even though extreme precautions were taken, like brass horse shoes for example, there was little or nothing left of the workers. VERY DANGEROUS occupation.
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Goex used to sponsor the North-South Skirmish Association (NSSA) national events at Fort Shenandoah.

Many shooters and all the cannon and mortar teams bought Goex by the keg. (25 lbs).
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Whatever their rationale...........they sure stuck one in us flintlock guys and broke it off.
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