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Old 11-22-2017, 04:16 PM
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Model 90, 06, 62 & 62A survey



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I have been remiss in posting this, but better late than never. I am collaborating with RFC (and WACA) member BertH in this survey. While this post duplicates a similar request for info on the WACA site it definitely belongs here as well since most of the inspiration and much of the information come from RFC members.

As BertH explains it so well:
There is a research survey in progress for all Model 90, 06, 62, and 62A slide-action rifles with a serial number greater than 713199.

Specifically, the Model 06 receivers with the "B" marking under the serial number on the receiver ended at serial number 685999 on 3/10/1926. Half-way through the day on 3/10/1926, the Model 90 receivers with the "A" marking were discontinued after serial number 713199. Beginning with serial number 713200 the Model 90 and Model 06 shared the same receiver and serial number range. This practice continued through serial number 846022 (June 6th, 1932), when the Models 90 and 06 were discontinued and replaced with the Model 62. From serial number 846023 (February 6th, 1933) through serial number 854757 (November 23rd, 1949), a total of 8,735 parts clean-up Model 90 and Model 06 rifles were assembled. Also in that 8,735 serial number range, there were an unknown number of Model 62 & 62A rifles assembled using the Model 90 receiver frames.

This survey will help to determine how many Model 90 and Model 06 rifles were actually manufactured during the regular production run, and how many were made during the parts clean-up run. It will also document the number that were made in each cartridge, and document the variants that were assembled by Winchester.

Feel free to ask questions and thanks to all who participate,

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Standard Production Summary

Standard Production Summary:

Thanks to everyone who has contributed. The survey typically grows by several numbers per week.

This is where we stand to date with 434 rifles in the Standard Production category (SNs 713200 to 846022):

Model 90s: 281 (65%)

Model 06s: 153 (35%)

This 65/35 split has been pretty consistent for awhile so I expect that to continue.

Chambering:

22 Short: 14.1%

22 Long: 5.3%

22 Long Rifle: 20.3%

22 WRF: 23.7%

22 S/L/LR: 36.6%

We have chambering information for 418 of the 434 entries so the percentages for 153 Model 06s the don't match exactly.

Lows and Highs

Lowest SN in this range: 713202 (a model 90/22Short)

Highest SN in this range: 844518 (a model 90/22 WRF)

22 Long popularity - The highest 22 Long recorded to date is 813751, made in July 1929. All other chamberings continued throughout standard production (June 1932) and well into the the "cleanup" era.

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Old 11-22-2017, 04:18 PM
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Parts-Cleanup Era Production (serial numbers > 846022):

Parts-Cleanup Era Production (serial numbers after 846022):
<<NOTE - this started out as what I called "hybrids" in an earlier thread since it was focused on the 62s and 62As>>

Thanks to everyone who has contributed. This part of the survey is growing much more slowly - with only 8,735 possible versus the 132,000+ in the Standard Production range.

Model 90s: 20 (32.3%)

Model 06s: 10 (16.1%)

Model 62s: 17 (27.4%)

Model 62As: 15 (24.2%)

Chambering:

22 Short: 16 (29.1%). Most are 90s and 62s. So far, only one has been reported as a 62A.

22 Long: 0 (0%)

22 Long Rifle: 6 (10.9%)

22 WRF: 6 (10.9%)

22 S/L/LR: 27 (49.1%)

We have chambering information for 55 of the 62 entries so the percentages are skewed.

Lows and Highs

Lowest SN in this range: 846207 (a model 62)

Highest SN in this range: 854519 (a model 06)

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Old 11-22-2017, 04:30 PM
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Inspiration For This Thread

This was one of the previous threads that inspired me (us?) to begin this production survey:

https://www.rimfirecentral.com/forums...d.php?t=610081
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Old 11-22-2017, 06:38 PM
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Great info, thanks for undertaking this daunting task!

Thanks also for supplying a few data points per week for my 56/57 survey which is still ongoing.

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I have been remiss in posting this, but better late than never. I am collaborating with RFC (and WACA) member BertH in this survey. While this post duplicates a similar request for info on the WACA site it definitely belongs here as well since most of the inspiration and much of the information come from RFC members.

As BertH explains it so well:
There is a research survey in progress for all Model 90, 06, 62, and 62A slide-action rifles with a serial number greater than 713199.

Specifically, the Model 06 receivers with the "B" marking under the serial number on the receiver ended at serial number 685999 on 3/10/1926. Half-way through the day on 3/10/1926, the Model 90 receivers with the "A" marking were discontinued after serial number 713199. Beginning with serial number 713200 the Model 90 and Model 06 shared the same receiver and serial number range. This practice continued through serial number 846022 (June 6th, 1932), when the Models 90 and 06 were discontinued and replaced with the Model 62. From serial number 846023 (February 6th, 1933) through serial number 854757 (November 23rd, 1949), a total of 8,735 parts clean-up Model 90 and Model 06 rifles were assembled. Also in that 8,735 serial number range, there were an unknown number of Model 62 & 62A rifles assembled using the Model 90 receiver frames.

This survey will help to determine how many Model 90 and Model 06 rifles were actually manufactured during the regular production run, and how many were made during the parts clean-up run. It will also document the number that were made in each cartridge, and document the variants that were assembled by Winchester.

Feel free to ask questions and thanks to all who participate,
Greetings - This is my 1st post as a new member of this informative forum. I acquired a number of Winchester pump firearms some time ago and am now trying to determine exactly what I have. The Winchester Takedown pump rifle in question has a 20" octagon barrel and short ribbed forearm and at 1st glance appears to be a Mdl 90. However, it does not have the metal crescent shaped buttstock (perhaps someone replaced the original stock). There is no data stamp or any info on the barrel. The lower tang and underneath of the receiver both have ser # 685452 and there is a B under the Ser # at bottom of receiver. The upper tang just says Winchester. It is an external hammer version. Is it also possibly a Mdl 62? Looking forward to response from some of the experts on this forum. Thanx Bill
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Greetings - This is my 1st post as a new member of this informative forum. I acquired a number of Winchester pump firearms some time ago and am now trying to determine exactly what I have. The Winchester Takedown pump rifle in question has a 20" octagon barrel and short ribbed forearm and at 1st glance appears to be a Mdl 90. However, it does not have the metal crescent shaped buttstock (perhaps someone replaced the original stock). There is no data stamp or any info on the barrel. The lower tang and underneath of the receiver both have ser # 685452 and there is a B under the Ser # at bottom of receiver. The upper tang just says Winchester. It is an external hammer version. Is it also possibly a Mdl 62? Looking forward to response from some of the experts on this forum. Thanx Bill
Bill,

The B designation on the receiver denotes it left the factory as a model 06. The shotgun butt stock would be correct for an 06 but your barrel has been changed at some point. 06 barrels are 20" long but they are round. Unless someone changed the lifter you should be able to shoot short, long or long rifle ammo through it.

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