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Old 07-21-2019, 11:30 AM
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I have been looking for a 17hmr. I have an opportunity to purchase a used in very good condition 452 American. The price is the same as a new 455 American. I have had a couple 455's in 22lr and found them less consistent than the 22lr 452's I have. Can Anyone convince Me that the New 455 would be better than the 452 in 17hmr caliber.
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Old 07-21-2019, 11:34 AM
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I have been looking for a 17hmr. I have an opportunity to purchase a used in very good condition 452 American. The price is the same as a new 455 American. I have had a couple 455's in 22lr and found them less consistent than the 22lr 452's I have. Can Anyone convince Me that the New 455 would be better than the 452 in 17hmr caliber.
Here's my 455 I bought new. I'm not disappointed. It's a fifty yard five shot group. I don't know if it's any better than a 452, but I doubt it's any worse. Same gun with a 17hmr barrel on it, six shots at 75 yards.
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Old 07-21-2019, 12:03 PM
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Jm17 sir get the 452...longer barrel and nicer blue finish.

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Edit: The other thing is the action has a 3/8 rail so anybodys rings with fit...this is a no brainer in my eyes.

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Old 07-21-2019, 01:00 PM
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Old 07-21-2019, 02:27 PM
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Try swapping barrels on the 452. No problem with the 455.
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Old 07-21-2019, 02:33 PM
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My vote is 452
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Old 07-21-2019, 03:30 PM
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Try swapping barrels on the 452. No problem with the 455.
I know that each of us have our own preferences but I have to say that in 50+ years of shooting, hunting and gun shows, I have never even once looked at a rim fire rifle and thought to myself, "I wish I could spend another $150 and swap another factory barrel so I can fire...rim fire." I would go with the 452 hands down.
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Old 07-21-2019, 03:39 PM
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Go 452

I think owning a 452 would be the was to go just because of fit and finish
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Old 07-21-2019, 03:43 PM
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IMO, if you want a fine old world piece that will hold its value, with a little bit of snob appeal, get the 452. If you want to be able to mess with it a little more, like switching barrels, tweaking the trigger, etc, get the 455. If you just want to shoot it without any bubba engineering or hardware store parts, and still maybe tweak it a little or a lot, get the 457.

Just for the record, I currently have three 452s and one 457. Don't see any good reason for me to have a 455. I've had a 455, but its gone now. For me, the only good reason to buy a 455 today is if its cheap. The 457 will do anything the 455 will, and then some. The 452 is a classic that you buy because you just want one.
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Old 07-21-2019, 04:10 PM
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Can Anyone convince Me that the New 455 would be better than the 452 in 17hmr caliber.
NOPE, not me.

I really have nothing against the 455s l just like the 452s better, but that is just my opinion. The only reason why l would choose the 455 is if for some reason l thought l would want to switch barrels at a later date.

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Old 07-21-2019, 04:58 PM
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I have a couple 455s in 17 HMR. They shoot over inch at 50 yards with all ammo except one particular ammo, which is hard to find at local stores. With that one particular ammo, they shoot almost one hole groups. It is hard to believe they shoot that well considering all the other available ammo shoots like crap. My Rugers and Marlins shoot real well with several brands of ammo. I would probably get the 452 with the hope it shoots a variety of ammo well.
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Old 07-21-2019, 05:05 PM
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The 452 American is worth more than a 455 will ever be and will most likely be more accurate as well.
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Buy both, keep the one you like!

Or buy the 452.
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I had a 455 American and a 452 American in .17HMR. I converted the 455 to .22LR, because I only needed one .17HMR rifle. The 452 .17HMR is a fine looking rifle--but so is the 455 American. The 452 has a slight edge aesthetically-wise over the 455, but I saw no difference in accuracy between the 455 and the 452 (considering my skill level). I like this rifle duo. I have the 452 in .17HMR and the 455 that I can swap to/from .17HMR - .22LR as may be needed. IRT your question: I'd buy a used 452 American in .17HMR over the new 455 if price/condition are OK. But as I hasten to add, the 455 American is an excellent rifle, in my experience.

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Well, I bought the 452. Thanks for all of the feedback.
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