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Old 02-20-2011, 10:30 AM
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One issue with shimming a scope, or using the Burris adjustable rings or slopes rails, is being able to come back to 25 yards without re-mounting the scope.

I had to use the adjustable rings with my 4x-16x scope in order to be able to go from 25 yards to 200 yards - I'm near the bottom of the adjustment for the close targets and near the top of the turret for the 200-yard targets. That is OK.

With the 8x-32x scope, though, the total adjustment range was not enough. There just wasn't enough travel to adjust for both ranges.

That may be a function of the higher power of the scope, although I do have an old Redfield 24X that does not come close to using up the range of adjustment.
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Old 02-20-2011, 01:10 PM
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If you're gonna do any significant amount of shooting at 200yds and beyond, you're much better off with a dedicated scope for the purpose at the very least but a dedicated rifle is best.
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Old 02-21-2011, 11:33 AM
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I use a Center Point 4-16x40. It has ~84 MOA of vertical range. I LOVE it.
It is clear and has easy to use turrets. I originally bought it as a temporary scope, but loved it so much I kept it.
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Something is wrong somewhere.
Yeah, it's "about 200 meters," is probably what they meant to say. I'm sure it was one of those incremental things, with the benches coming along sometime after everything else and getting put in "about" the right spot. I felt better after ranging it, though, as it explained why I was getting more drop than I expected.
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Our club shoots the sillhouette match with the 3/8 scale IHMSA .22 targets. My 14 year old granddaughter came out to visit a couple years ago, had never fired a rifle. Coached her for about a half hour, later that day we went to the match, she shot my Sako 78 with Weaver T-10, fired a 10x10 at 200 meters on the ram. Firing at 200 is no different than at 50 or 100 or whatever except that you have to be more careful of the wind.

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You have to be kidding. I don't know anyone that would shoot that way unless absolutely forced to.
I fire on the 500 meter highpower ram sometimes at our range with my .22 Sako. amazes all who see it (hear it actually, if the wind is right you can hear the little "clink" ) there is a little rock on the hill behind the ram that is just the right height, I can put on my 100 meter dope and hit the 500 meter guy 8 out of 10 or so. Fun.
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Old 02-21-2011, 02:15 PM
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500 meters is a long, long, way for a .22LR bullet!

We have a 500-meter silhouette set-up too - I'll have to try that sometime wiht my .22!
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500 meters is a long, long, way for a .22LR bullet!

We have a 500-meter silhouette set-up too - I'll have to try that sometime wiht my .22!
There is no way you get enough adjustment in your scope, or get a hit with anything but calm or light wind blowing parallel to your line of fire. You might need someone with you with a good spotting scope to get you onto the target, you need dry ground around the target so you get puffs of dust to show your impacts.
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Ruger VBZ 77-22 w/ Leup 6.5x20 EFR- Burris Ruger signature rings+/- .020 inserts in rear- +/-.005 in ft = .025 offset no problem at 200/250- waiting for an opportunity to try further distances. CZ 452 varmint- 36x Japanese Tasco Target - same ring set up works great too. I can still get a 50 yd zero- barely.

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I'm not sure I understand. The field of view on a 10X scope is about 55 feet at 500 yards. The bullet drop from 100 yards to 500 yards is a little over 40 feet. From the center of the scope to the bottom of the field of view is around 28 feet. So the target is some 12 feet outside the field of view.
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Something wrong there somewhere, MKnarr, I suspect your figure on the FOV is not correct. Where did you find that?

Edit: Next time I'm at the range I will try to get a figure on that, I think I can estimate it at least.
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Old 02-21-2011, 06:25 PM
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I shoot my Kimber 82G and my Savage Mk II at 200 yards. Both have Burris Signature Zee rings on with with 20 MOA. The Kimber has a Mueller Target 8-32x44 and the Savage has a Mueller Eraticator 8.5-25x50. Both are zeroed at 50 yards. I add 6" for 100 yards, 13" for 150 yards and between 23 and 26" for 200 yards, depending on the ammo I'm using. I still have elevation at each end of the adjustment, but not as much on the Eraticator on the low end as I do on the Target. Not surprisingly, the Target is a 30mm scope, versus the 1" of the Eraticator, which might give me more adjustment.

Mom shoots her CZ452 with a BDC Nikon scope and Burris Signature rings. She needs to use the first ring down in the BDC, but her first time at 200 yards (Mom is 79 years old) she did a 4" group! Better than I can do!

Our Rams are 11x13, including the legs.

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Old 02-21-2011, 07:00 PM
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Seems like two camps here - those who say shooting extreme distances is fun and challenging, and those who say it can't be done.

As games go, trying 300 - 400 - even 500 meters does sound fun. I don't know if I could detect a hit in the berm behind the 500 meter targets, but now that the idea has struck me I'll have to try!

Another silly thing I've tried is hitting a 200-yard gong (actually a compressed gas cylinder - about 18" wide) at our local range with a 1911. After a spotter walked me in, I hit the gong 4 times out of an 8-round magazine. I was aiming at a rock above the gong, and couldn't even see the gong. It was satisfying to hear the clang of the hits! (No, it was not off-hand - I had my wrists on a stack of sandbags.)
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.22lr at 200 plus yards.

I have my own range (200x1200) or so yards. I shot IHMSA silhouette for a long long time and have a set of 3/8 scale swingers hooked up so I can take em off the stands. I dont' know if my scope rifles have the adjustment range much past 200 but I got a Stevens Model 1915 Crackshot (original) with a 4.5" vernier tang sight on it that shoots just under MOA. Got about 3.5" left from sighted in 3" high at 100 yards. Never tried anything out that far but you got me interested. I am gonna take that ram off and get on the old 4 wheeler and start going out yonder until I can's see em anymore and see what happens. I wonder if you could catch the bullet at 600 yards in your hand?

I only joined this forum in mid January of this year cause it struck me as having the most variety and knowledgeable shooters combined with shooters that are smart enough to know they are not smart enough.

I now add to those attributes......you guys really come up with some strange stuff!

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We have shot our 22's out to 200yds. It is alot of fun. I crank my zero to 100yds and the rest is hold over and windage. We set out soda cans, swingers, and various objects to knock over. It is awesome to get a few in a row.
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Old 02-21-2011, 09:15 PM
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I don't know if I could detect a hit in the berm behind the 500 meter targets, but now that the idea has struck me I'll have to try!
Our berms are sprinkled with chalk (lime?) to make them white and dusty.... easier to call the misses.
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