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Old 01-01-2010, 08:13 PM
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Old 01-01-2010, 08:25 PM
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You might look at the .17HMR. But a center fire round might be a better choice.
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Old 01-01-2010, 08:34 PM
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I used to own a .17HMR, before I got my .204, and would have a hard time depending on a bullet that small at 350 yards when it only leaves the muzzle at 2550 fps...as it will drop off pretty quick and become unstable as far as accuracy.

I wound us converting a 10/22 to a .17M2 and only lost 450 fps from the HMR and got the .204 and picked up another 1100fps and got a cartridge I can reload., with a much better accuracy factor..
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Old 01-01-2010, 08:44 PM
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If I was you I'd think about going with something like a .22-250. You can reach out and smack something with one of those. But you can get out to that distance with rimfires.
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Old 01-01-2010, 08:46 PM
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What rimfire cartridge and gun would you use to try target shooting at 350-400 yards? Why? I would like to keep the cost of the gun under $800.
Simple... NONE You need to go with at least a .223, and even beter with a 22-250, but a rimfire at 350-400 yards is just plain stupid. The wind would play heck with you at the super long range.
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Old 01-01-2010, 08:52 PM
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Rimfire at that range?

22 magnum. The 17s are too vulnerable to the wind, the mag has a 100-125 yard advantage on the LR, and the 5mm there just aren't enough options for both guns and ammo (and the ammo options may be disappearing soon...)

Actual gun, etc? Savage 93 BTV or BTVSS, one of the high magnification Weaver scopes, a new replacement base with some MOA built into it, Burris Z Rings with more MOA available in the shims.
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Old 01-01-2010, 08:52 PM
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Trot over to Sniper's Hide.
There is some interest in 150-300yd .22LR , in its own right and as training for long range centerfire.
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Old 01-01-2010, 08:55 PM
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I'm with OldTurtle on this one. I have a .22 LR, a 17HMR and a 220 Swift. Each has it's strengths and proper use.

Because I am now loading my own 220 Swift ammunition, I am able to bring the per round cost down to about twice the cost of 17HMR. Then again, 17HMR costs about twice as much as good quality .22 LR.

1. Out to 50 yards, 22LR is plenty accurate so why waste the cash on 17HMR or centerfire ammunition.

2. At 100 yards, I see little difference between my 17HMR and my 220 Swift but the .22 LR loses in accuracy energy.

3. At 200 yards or beyond, neither the .22 LR nor the 17 HMR is likely to remain stable enough nor carry enough energy to please me, while the 220 Swift is just coming into it's element. I have read of successful varmint shooting with a Ruger No. 1 220 Swift, exactly like mine, at 350 yards. I hope to develop such skill some day. I know the rifle is right for the job.
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Old 01-01-2010, 08:59 PM
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What kind of target at 350-400 yards?
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Old 01-01-2010, 10:46 PM
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No problem breaking clay pigeons at 200/ 225 yds you need a 20x scope and mounts that will let you get enough elevation to zero it no problem with ruger- cz -rem. even my old martini mk2.We only have a 200 yd range but I think 300+ would not be a problem if I could adj. the scope.
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Any decently accurate rimfire that's within your price range will work, the hardest part is going to be testing the 12 quadrillion types of ammo to find the one that works best with your rifle. Once you find that, then you start making steps out to the range you want to shoot.

I have only made it to 200 yards so far, I need to quit procrastinating and get my order in for a 20moa base so I can shoot out to 300. That's about as far as I will go, there are some that tried all the way out to 600 just to see how much umph there was.

Gizzy, i'm thinking that you might want to retract your statement. Clearly you haven't attempted the challenge of launching a .22 rimfire bullet at extended ranges. The poster didn't mention anything about shooting animals, or hunting with it, it's simply for target practice. Shooting steel or paper doesn't fall under any ethical boundaries unless your a tree hugging hippie that believe paper holds the "life force" of the "soul of the tree" or some nonsense. The longest ever recorded, and witnessed shot on a varmint was 3125 yards on a prarie dog with a .338LM. Now that's like a .22 at 350 or 400 yards. Are you going to tell me that the gentlemen that did that was "plain stupid" for shooting that rifle far beyond it's intended purpose?

I think that when it comes to shooting the .22lr at long range, the biggest thing that you need to eliminate, or minimize is extreme velocity spread. Yes, the bullet will be effected by wind, but after a lot of practice you can account for the wind, you can learn to shoot in identical (or very close to) wind conditions for each shot. Large ES' don't show up as much at 50 and 100. But they sure do show up at 200 and beyond. Once you get past 300, you'll more often then not get a pattern rather than a group, but it really depends on the ammo you shoot.

Once I finally get my scope base and do some shooting at 300 yards, i'll be sure to post my results so Gizzy can tell me how stupid I am for shooting my steel target that far out.

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Old 01-02-2010, 01:26 AM
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Simple... NONE You need to go with at least a .223, and even beter with a 22-250, but a rimfire at 350-400 yards is just plain stupid. The wind would play heck with you at the super long range.
Why is it stupid? He isn't trying to shoot game at this distance. He is target shooting just for fun.
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Old 01-02-2010, 01:33 AM
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Why is it stupid? He isn't trying to shoot game at this distance. He is target shooting just for fun.
You guys have more money to throw away than I do. I would not waste the ammo missing something more than hitting it just to see if I can. Thats why I call it stupid. You guys go have a ball. I like to hit what I shoot at, every time, and know I am not going to miss.
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Old 01-02-2010, 02:03 AM
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You guys have more money to throw away than I do. I would not waste the ammo missing something more than hitting it just to see if I can. Thats why I call it stupid. You guys go have a ball. I like to hit what I shoot at, every time, and know I am not going to miss.
I use a Rangefinder at those distances, but i still do miss sometimes. But it's still cheaper than going out and buying a 223.
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Old 01-02-2010, 02:20 AM
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You guys have more money to throw away than I do....
Yeah, 'cause we all know how expensive those darn .22 bullets are. Missing is part of learning, what are you learning if you aren't msising and learning from the mistake that caused you to miss?

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