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Old 02-20-2019, 03:14 PM
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I had been pricing a 10/22 build for a few months anyways and when I decided to go ahead and switch rifles, I added up all the parts to do a build. I couldn't put one together using equivalent parts for less than what I could get the custom shop for. I figured even if it still doesn't shoot as well as I want, I have a good platform to have a Shilen Select Match barrel fitted to.
I don't ever recall hearing anyone say they had a tack-driving Ruger barrel so I'm curious to see how this performs. I agree with your logic about the Custom Shop as a platform.

I cleaned my barrel, fired 3--cleaning between each--and mounted my scope. I might lose control and go to the range tomorrow if my ammo order comes early but it is very unlikely. I had one round hang up and get a major shave on its way into the chamber. It's tight it seems. Trigger pull was just under 2.5#, avg of 3 pulls.

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Rifle complete and range ready:



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Old 02-20-2019, 04:04 PM
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I guess time will tell how these do. It is good hearing about the chamber being tight
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Old 02-20-2019, 04:11 PM
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Mystery photo on top looks like something didnt go out the barrel
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Old 02-20-2019, 05:09 PM
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Mystery photo on top looks like something didnt go out the barrel
Nope.

I took those with a 5mm USB camera similar to a bore scope so they are terrible but someone will figure them out.

Hint, it's two different angles of the same thing.

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Old 02-20-2019, 06:49 PM
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Now that I can look closer, I see that it has a pinned firing pin
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Old 02-20-2019, 07:02 PM
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Now that I can look closer, I see that it has a pinned firing pin
Move to the head of the class!

If they did this, I'm betting we'll find a headspace of .043 when I get into it
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Old 02-20-2019, 08:05 PM
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This is the first I have heard or seen anything mentioned about it having a pinned firing pin. I'm notnsure how to measure the headspace or I would check mine when I get it.

I'm doing my best to not set too high of expectations for this rifle so I don't get too disappointed when it doesn't shoot great. I am really pushing for it to average .5" at 50yds but I know my luck lol.
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Old 02-20-2019, 08:27 PM
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This is the first I have heard or seen anything mentioned about it having a pinned firing pin. I'm notnsure how to measure the headspace or I would check mine when I get it.

I'm doing my best to not set too high of expectations for this rifle so I don't get too disappointed when it doesn't shoot great. I am really pushing for it to average .5" at 50yds but I know my luck lol.
I alluded to the pinned firing pin in post #35.

I'm known for not being as enthusiastic as most about that modification. I don't care one way or the other, I won't remove it, but its value is questionable at best IMO and I certainly won't pay for it. Probably lots of people saying the same thing about the CSC.

It is fitting that it was you that noticed it, you've shown the most interest.

P.S. You can check headspace with a dial caliper using the bottom as a depth mic., the little rod that will protrude out the bottom. Fiddly, but it should work.

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Old 02-21-2019, 01:27 AM
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I alluded to the pinned firing pin in post #35.

I'm known for not being as enthusiastic as most about that modification. I don't care one way or the other, I won't remove it, but its value is questionable at best IMO and I certainly won't pay for it. Probably lots of people saying the same thing about the CSC.<img src="https://www.rimfirecentral.com/forums/images/smilies/wink.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Wink" class="inlineimg" />

It is fitting that it was you that noticed it, you've shown the most interest.

P.S. You can check headspace with a dial caliper using the bottom as a depth mic., the little rod that will protrude out the bottom. Fiddly, but it should work.
I recall you mentioning there was another modification done you weren't sure mattered but it was when you posted the pic of the manual regarding the rear hold down and not with the other pics. I looked that manual pic over four times trying to find the extra modification but finally gave up, now I see why I didn't find it there lol.

I am extremely interested as I like I said I have high hopes for this rifle and want it to be a good gun. I really hope Ruger did this right and the rifle has a good barrel to go with everything else they have done. I could have put one together with known good quality parts for a few hundred bucks more but I really wanted to give the CSC a try as it has most everything on it you would get with aftermarket parts yet at a lower cost. Also, when it most likely gets discontinued in a year because the average person isn't dropping ~$700 on a factory 10/22 it will be a neat gun to have in the years to come.
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Old 02-21-2019, 10:53 AM
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I'm doing my best to not set too high of expectations for this rifle so I don't get too disappointed when it doesn't shoot great. I am really pushing for it to average .5" at 50yds but I know my luck lol.
Forums create mythical expectations for accuracy, the more you pay, the higher the public pressure. I was going to link in a few videos of people shooting Kidd, Fedderson, Long Range Shooter of Idaho, 22 Plinkster to show that 1" inch @ 50 Yds is generally considered good and probably better than average. Are there people that are shooting .3 @ 50Yds? Yes. Will it be me? No.

You shouldn't accept poor performance if you are paying for equipment that is claiming to deliver a higher standard, but there is proof enough available on YouTube that there is a lot of "culling" going on.

I don't challenge anybody publicly who posts an honest group because it places pressure on them to cull. Quite frankly, you can ask anybody to name "their brand" and I'll find an honest video with groups that somebody shot with that "brand" that will probably look like yours. I've also seen a spirited defense for the comparison because it didn't measure up but an OP never seems to get those considerations.

Having said this, someone can put together a 15lb gun with a $400 hand lapped barrel, shoot $18/50 ammo and do exceptionally well. That is not what CSC, CZ & Kidd shooters are doing.

BS? Name your brand.

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Old 02-21-2019, 12:10 PM
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I fully understand what you are saying. The problem is I shoot with guys who have Kidd, Liljia, Shilen, CZ, barrelled rifles and I have seen multiple sub 1" groups at 100 yards and 3/8" or smaller at 50 yards. I know a lot has to come down to skills and these guys and gals have way more than I do.
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Old 02-21-2019, 03:36 PM
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The problem is I shoot with guys who have Kidd, Liljia, Shilen, CZ, barrelled rifles and I have seen multiple sub 1" groups at 100 yards and 3/8" or smaller at 50 yards.
Tough crowd! Doubt the CSC will hang with the Shilens.

This is where I shoot; regular folk. There are about 80 positions and it looks like WalMart on weekends. There are usually a dozen or more .22's of various types and 1/2 or so will be 10/22's of various types and levels. Check the Miami weather and you'll see that a day without at least 10 MPH winds is nonexistent--1" drift @ 50Yds w/SV. The targets rock back and forth in their stands. Not a lot of sub-MOA going on out here. Lots of fun. I usually hand out a lot of CCI SV.



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Old 02-21-2019, 07:16 PM
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I have no expectations of this rifle hanging with the Shilens and knew that from the get go. What I do hope is to see are groups that will let me be competitive against the CZs and stock/slightly modded 10/22s. I am also okay with putting a Shilen on it later on to really be competitive. My train of thought was .5" groups and if not then I have good parts to work with.

I am very glad I don't have to deal with a public range. I have my own place to shoot and the range I compete at is a semi-private range. We can have pretty calm weather when it isn't raining but it has pretty well rained 75% of the time since well before Christmas. The forecast for this weekend is looking iffy so real accuracy tests may not get accomplished. I will do a tear and take pictures though.
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Old 02-21-2019, 08:02 PM
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I will do a tear and take pictures though.
Quick-n-dirty headspace(this is not CSC bolt).

Get you some probe goin' on with a dial caliper:



Place the probe in the cartridge pocket and push the bottom of the caliper squarely onto the face of the bolt making sure it only contacts the bolt face, not extractor.



Read:



Everything was laying on my bench when I did this, no need to juggle things in your hands.

Edit - It is important that the bottom of the dial caliper be square on both the X & Y planes(not angled down) or the reading won't be accurate. You may want to lay the caliper on something to bring it up to the same height as the bolt's cartridge pocket.

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Old 02-22-2019, 05:57 AM
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Well that is simple enough. I now have to find my good set of calipers
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