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Old 11-12-2019, 09:09 AM
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Ammo response. The CZ barrels imho, really dont need a break in period. Since you are hunting , you really dont need high quality target ammo. You might like the Aguila ammo line. I like the SV , but i shoot paper.
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Old 11-12-2019, 09:11 AM
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Good carbon fiber rod (don’t buy one too short), a rod guide, and jags, and some nylon brushes and solvent you’ll be good to go.
I try to keep some oil on the spot where the cocker rides(bolt). Most pressure is there.
I am not fond of wood stocks.
I use my guns in the elements loads.

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I agree! And I oiled that same sport yesterday, was looking at the bolt and how it rides and I got the same thought. I also agree on wood stocks, although I really like them but for a gun that’s going to be out in the woods a lot, I much prefer a synthetic stock. Thank you!

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Happy hunting with the new 455 American? Good choice for a .22LR!
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If budget is a concern for your scope purchase, do look at the Mueller 4.5-14x. Good value and decent performance for $200 or less. Good size and weight for a walk around rifle. Mueller's 6-18x scope is also nice but may be too much magnification for close shots. Definitely put several hundred rounds through the rifle before you start a serious ammo search. Just get out and shoot. Enjoy your rifle. Learn your rifle. Perfect your skills. Then you can drive yourself crazy with the great "perfect" ammo search. Welcome to RFC!!
I am willing to spend between $300-$400 for a good scope that is going to stay on the rifle throughout its life. I am having a hard time deciding on a scope 😞 I’m looking for something that will let me shoot targets and see holes between 50-100yards but I’m also going to be hunting at distances closer to that. I’m thinking adjustable parallax but also debating target turrets that can be reset when zero’d...if anyone has suggestions feel free. What would you suggest for the first few hundred rounds to run through her? CCI SV? And where do you generally purchase rounds? Thank you I appreciate it!

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Old 11-12-2019, 09:13 AM
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Ammo response. The CZ barrels imho, really dont need a break in period. Since you are hunting , you really dont need high quality target ammo. You might like the Aguila ammo line. I like the SV , but i shoot paper.
Seems like thats what CZ’s website states too. No break-in required. I will look at the Aguila line and check them out. Thanks for the Input I appreciate it. Where do you usually pick up your ammo from? Lots of options to choose from.
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Old 11-12-2019, 09:14 AM
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Welcome!

As for your scope budget, I have Leupolds, Weavers, Burris, Sigs and several Vortex as well as a couple of Athlons that pleasantly surprised me. The Athlon Argos isn't quite as crisp as the nearly identically featured Vortex Diamondback but it is nearly $100 cheaper and falls right in your price range. Stepping up to the Weaver Grand Slam (a great scope - so sad Weaver is gone), or farther up the chain, will get you into better glass, for sure, but the cost increases quickly. Good luck shopping, and remember that Amazon doesn't always have the best prices!
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Old 11-12-2019, 09:15 AM
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Old 11-12-2019, 10:03 AM
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Welcome to RFC. One place for ammo I recommend is online at Target Sports USA. Good prices and cases ship free. They are more than competitive with other sites that may have slightly lower prices but loose that advantage by charging more than that amount for shipping. If you're not buying a full case then SG Ammo becomes another good option. I'm sure there are others but these are just the two I mainly use.
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Old 11-12-2019, 10:10 PM
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As for your scope budget, I have Leupolds, Weavers, Burris, Sigs and several Vortex as well as a couple of Athlons that pleasantly surprised me. The Athlon Argos isn't quite as crisp as the nearly identically featured Vortex Diamondback but it is nearly $100 cheaper and falls right in your price range. Stepping up to the Weaver Grand Slam (a great scope - so sad Weaver is gone), or farther up the chain, will get you into better glass, for sure, but the cost increases quickly. Good luck shopping, and remember that Amazon doesn't always have the best prices!
Thank you for the great recommendations! I am still debating getting target turrets or hunter capped turrets given most of my range shooting will be at most at 100 yards and hunting ofcourse not past 75-80 yards. I'd also like to be able to see holes at 100 yards but still have the ability to get the crosshairs at a squirrel faily quick so maybe something in the 4-14x range? Im not even sure if I need an AO/Side focus scope at these ranges. Im interested in hearing your thoughts about the scopes you have and my questions.

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Welcome to RFC. One place for ammo I recommend is online at Target Sports USA. Good prices and cases ship free. They are more than competitive with other sites that may have slightly lower prices but loose that advantage by charging more than that amount for shipping. If you're not buying a full case then SG Ammo becomes another good option. I'm sure there are others but these are just the two I mainly use.
I will definitely look into them! Thank you. Any advice on what ammo to start with? Perhaps something to shoot a few hundred rounds before starting to seriously test ammo.
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Thank you for the great recommendations! I am still debating getting target turrets or hunter capped turrets given most of my range shooting will be at most at 100 yards and hunting ofcourse not past 75-80 yards. I'd also like to be able to see holes at 100 yards but still have the ability to get the crosshairs at a squirrel faily quick so maybe something in the 4-14x range? Im not even sure if I need an AO/Side focus scope at these ranges.

Any advice on what ammo to start with? Perhaps something to shoot a few hundred rounds before starting to seriously test ammo.
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Beware the scopes with non adjustable focus as many are set at 50 yds and above. Look for scopes that focus down to 10-20 yards or so. That way you have all the bases covered. I strongly suggest purchasing a really good scope. You will not be disappointed. Buy it right the first time and perhaps cry a bit but you will not have to buy it again.

As to ammo, I believe in shooting the best ammo via performance in your rifle. Hunting, to me, even more so then punching paper, requires the best possible performance in consideration of the game as any shooting sport.

Check the major ammo sales sites. Several will provide comparison on prices. I happen to like Eley (SSHP and Edge) and SK Rifle Match. I have one gun that likes Lapua 10X.
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If you are interested in finding some hunting ammo. This past summer, I tried 8 different hollow points for hunting (both standard and high velocity). The most accurate load in both my CZ 457 American and Anschutz 1416 HB Classic is the Federal American Eagle 38 grain copper plated hollow point rated at 1260 fps. (AE22)

The target below shows 25 yard 10 shot groups with each rifle. The Anschutz fired the top left target with its first ten shots from a clean barrel. The bottom left target is from shots 11-20. Likewise, the top right target is the first 10 shots from my CZ American with a clean barrel and the bottom right target is shots 11-20. The red colored bullseyes measure one inch in diameter. So, squirrels, rabbits and grouse beware! I have to buy my ammo in stores because I live in Alaska and no one will ship it here UPS ground.
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Old 11-13-2019, 08:00 AM
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Beware the scopes with non adjustable focus as many are set at 50 yds and above. Look for scopes that focus down to 10-20 yards or so. That way you have all the bases covered. I strongly suggest purchasing a really good scope. You will not be disappointed. Buy it right the first time and perhaps cry a bit but you will not have to buy it again.


I would add that size and weight are important for hunting so include that consideration in your decision tree (which is probably starting to look like a tumbleweed by now ) .

As for magnification, I generally go for as much power as possible on the high end without sacrificing needs for the primary purpose. You can always dial it back. Bells and whistles are attractive but, in the end, put your money into optic quality first.

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Old 11-13-2019, 08:32 PM
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lhanania:

Beware the scopes with non adjustable focus as many are set at 50 yds and above. Look for scopes that focus down to 10-20 yards or so. That way you have all the bases covered. I strongly suggest purchasing a really good scope. You will not be disappointed. Buy it right the first time and perhaps cry a bit but you will not have to buy it again.

As to ammo, I believe in shooting the best ammo via performance in your rifle. Hunting, to me, even more so then punching paper, requires the best possible performance in consideration of the game as any shooting sport.

Check the major ammo sales sites. Several will provide comparison on prices. I happen to like Eley (SSHP and Edge) and SK Rifle Match. I have one gun that likes Lapua 10X.
Yeah I am leaning heavily towards an AO/focus scope. And focusing down to 20 yards is definitely needed. I am hoping to purchase a good quality scope and keep it with the rifle for as long as I have it. Any suggestions on scopes that will allow me to dial down magnification for hunting while also letting me see holes at 100 yards? Definitely with an AO and perhaps target turrets (not really a necessity but I can start practicing calculating elevation/clicks)

I agree with you 100% on the ammo performance especially for the game. I will check out the sites. Thanks for all the help.

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If you are interested in finding some hunting ammo. This past summer, I tried 8 different hollow points for hunting (both standard and high velocity). The most accurate load in both my CZ 457 American and Anschutz 1416 HB Classic is the Federal American Eagle 36 grain hollow point rated at 1260 fps.

The target below shows 25 yard 10 shot groups with each rifle. The Anschutz fired the top left target with its first ten shots from a clean barrel. The bottom left target is from shots 11-20. Likewise, the top right target is the first 10 shots from my CZ American with a clean barrel and the bottom right target is shots 11-20. The red colored bullseyes measure one inch in diameter. So, squirrels, rabbits and grouse beware! I have to buy my ammo in stores because I live in Alaska and no one will ship it here UPS ground.
Ive read very good things about the Federal American Eagle and I will definitely test some out! Those are very nice groups and I like that you have both a clean and dirty barrel group.

To me, being in Alaska and being able to hunt sooty grouse is definitely worth having to buy ammo in stores, you are very lucky. I would love to go grouse hunting up there!

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I would add that size and weight are important for hunting so include that consideration in your decision tree (which is probably starting to look like a tumbleweed by now ) .

As for magnification, I generally go for as much power as possible on the high end without sacrificing needs for the primary purpose. You can always dial it back. Bells and whistles are attractive but, in the end, put your money into optic quality first.
You are definitely correct, my decision tree is looking alot like tumbleweed now! I do agree with highest power as long as im able to dial down to something that I can hunt with. Do you have any recommendations for scopes like that in the $300-$400 range? perhaps with AO...Thanks for all the help I appreciate it.
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Old 11-15-2019, 05:11 AM
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You might want to look at the Bushnell Engage 6-24x50mm for a scope in your price range ($386 at Optics Planet). Side focus (parallax) starting all the way down at 10 yards, to infinity. Part #REN62450DG.
https://www.opticsplanet.com/bushnel...-30mm-blk.html
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