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Old 03-24-2019, 10:48 AM
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Any other trigger worth buying over a Kidd?



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Buddy of mine asked me what was the best trigger group if he was building a gun from scratch and had to buy the parts from the ground up.


Seems like lots of places have upgrades if you already have the trigger housing and small parts and they offer the trigger upgrade or will work on it

e.g.

Kidd "trigger job" = $105
Brimstone trigger work = $38 -> 110.00 (only looking at top tier)
TandomKross = $134
CPC = don't know how it breaks down but assuming ~ $89.00
Power Custom = $120.00 (midway usa price)
Force Production = $78.00


looking in the classifieds it seems $30.00 is the price for a Ruger OEM trigger housing and parts


Then onto complete fire control groups - (triggers, housing and all small parts)

Kidd single stage = $199.00
TacticalInc = $165.00 (pike arms)
Ruger BX (~$60.00 but I wouldn't classify it with any good trigger)
Volquartsen ~$240 ->300.00
Timney - 260.00->300.00
Powercustom - 250.00
Powder River Precision - ~$165.00
Jard = $199.00
Force Production = 250.00



So basically as far as I can see. for ~ $200.00 you can get a guaranteed great trigger from Kidd, and most others are within $30.00 one way or the other.

Even buying an OEM Ruger group for 30.00 and adding a trigger, Kidd "trigger job" is one of the best buys (which is about $65.00 less than his all metal trigger group).

Am I missing anything?
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Old 03-24-2019, 11:15 AM
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In all my personal builds plus my customs (unless the customer specifies) I use the PC adjustable for about $70. I have got their hammer/sear and disconnector figured out.
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Old 03-24-2019, 11:15 AM
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...and let the KIDD fan boys loose
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Old 03-24-2019, 11:25 AM
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...and let the KIDD fan boys loose





I have a Kidd Trigger Job on one 10-22 and have used other brands but the trigger job is pretty good. Just curious what else is great bang for the buck


Truth be told. I am tempted to try out the Tandem Kross one of these days but this isn't for me so I am poling a bigger more experienced audience
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Old 03-24-2019, 11:26 AM
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In all my personal builds plus my customs (unless the customer specifies) I use the PC adjustable for about $70. I have got their hammer/sear and disconnector figured out.
RCP -

I have only felt one PC trigger and it was way back in ~2008 or so. I don't remember much other than it was much better than my 10-22 stock trigger
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Old 03-24-2019, 11:46 AM
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Just curious what else is great bang for the buck
Depends on your goal. Do you need a really good trigger or one that's just good enough not to hinder accuracy. Really good is a Kidd two stage, and I'd say it's worth $300 if that's what you want.

At the other end of the spectrum, just a Volquartsen hammer brings poundage way down for 30-something dollars.

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Old 03-24-2019, 12:24 PM
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Over a Kidd, probably not. But lots to choose from under. I donít have a Kidd yet? But someday. Iím satisfied with the ones I have. A hornet black max, a bunch of Bxís, a stock metal trigger that was ďenhanced ď probably a VQ Trigger job, a VQ TG 2000, and the latest a brimstone tier 2. To be honest a heavy trigger doesnít bother me as long as the break is crisp and clean,nor does a little take up, but overtravel bothers me.

I have lighter triggers in othe guns, and while I like them, they can be surprising
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Old 03-24-2019, 12:28 PM
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I bought company fully built triggers
Ruger- never again
Timney- nice
Volquartsen- full built gun- even better
Kidd- 2 stage, 8oz-8 oz. costs an arm and a leg but it’s worth it
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Old 03-24-2019, 01:09 PM
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Brimstone tier 1 looks good enough for me.

They also do tier 2 on a bx trigger group 1.2 lb pull. This is what I'm personally going to do maybe after summer.

Im sure kidd two stage is the best but ill rather use that money towards a whole new rifle.... (tikka t1x!)

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Old 03-24-2019, 01:27 PM
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I have Kidd single stage at 2 pounds and a Brimstone tier 1 at around 2 pounds both are great.
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Just referring to Kidd triggers, the Trigger Job is a great value. I have two, and they are money well spent. For the additional money to get a single stage complete, you get an aluminum trigger housing, guard and mag release, a terrific mag plunger and spring, auto bolt release, safety, and all the springs and pins of the trigger group - assembled and ready to install. I have one. At the $199 sale price, another great value. Finally, if you want to build an ultimate 10/22, you'd be hard pressed to beat the Kidd two stage - smooth, clean, and adjustable to a fare-thee-well. All three of my heavyweights have these.
There are lots of ways to improve over a stock Ruger trigger group. I have three complete trigger groups sitting in my parts box - a Ruger Target, a Ruger BX, and an older Ruger with a VQ competition hammer (for many years, my best trigger group!). They are not there because they were better than, equal to, or even close to a Trigger Job. My oldest stepson bought a VQ TG2000, thinking he'd show me a thing or two - for $246. He found the Kidd single stage to be superior but as always YMMV.
I spent years worrying about the cost of upgrades - and I still do. Once I really decided to pursue increased accuracy, the decision equation changed. When you are adding several hundred dollars to a $200 gun, and you realize the two biggest improvements will be barrel and trigger group, the equation changes. When you go from Thunderbolts to SK Pistol Match or Eley Tenex (etc) the equation changes. If you never try a Kidd two stage, you'll never experience one - and your equation may not change. I have a 10/22T that is a very nice shooter, even though it could benefit from pillars, bedding, and a barrel upgrade. Only thing I have changed on it is the trigger group. I went from the best factory Ruger trigger I've personally shot to a Kidd two-stage, which I caught on eBay with a one-day 15% eBay discount, so I paid $246.46 delivered. Haven't told my stepson about that one - yet.
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Old 03-24-2019, 03:40 PM
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Buddy of mine asked me what was the best trigger group if he was building a gun from scratch and had to buy the parts from the ground up.


Seems like lots of places have upgrades if you already have the trigger housing and small parts and they offer the trigger upgrade or will work on it

e.g.

Kidd "trigger job" = $105
Brimstone trigger work = $38 -> 110.00 (only looking at top tier)
TandomKross = $134
CPC = don't know how it breaks down but assuming ~ $89.00
Power Custom = $120.00 (midway usa price)
Force Production = $78.00


looking in the classifieds it seems $30.00 is the price for a Ruger OEM trigger housing and parts


Then onto complete fire control groups - (triggers, housing and all small parts)

Kidd single stage = $199.00
TacticalInc = $165.00 (pike arms)
Ruger BX (~$60.00 but I wouldn't classify it with any good trigger)
Volquartsen ~$240 ->300.00
Timney - 260.00->300.00
Powercustom - 250.00
Powder River Precision - ~$165.00
Jard = $199.00
Force Production = 250.00



So basically as far as I can see. for ~ $200.00 you can get a guaranteed great trigger from Kidd, and most others are within $30.00 one way or the other.

Even buying an OEM Ruger group for 30.00 and adding a trigger, Kidd "trigger job" is one of the best buys (which is about $65.00 less than his all metal trigger group).

Am I missing anything?
What does your buddy want to do with the rifle?? One of the things you run into here with responses to questions like this is 75% of the answers you get are from people who are after extreme accuracy without no regard for practicality. The two stage Kidd set at 8-8 is a fine trigger for benchrest shooting but it isn't what I would want in a walkaround rifle.
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Old 03-24-2019, 05:15 PM
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What does your buddy want to do with the rifle?? One of the things you run into here with responses to questions like this is 75% of the answers you get are from people who are after extreme accuracy without no regard for practicality. The two stage Kidd set at 8-8 is a fine trigger for benchrest shooting but it isn't what I would want in a walkaround rifle.

I think he just wants an accurate .22 with a good trigger that is comparable to his bolt/AR guns.

When we go out shooting, it's mainly, shooting target, steel, and small game hunting. He takes his kids out shooting and sometimes new shooters. I think he is looking for a trigger that is good and he won't be regretting his purchase.

I will have to double check he isn't going to be competing with his rifle but he hasn't said anything to me about competing with it.
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I am down to Kidd single stage or trigger kit for my precision guns and Kidd two stage for my benchrest guns. Brimstone on my plinkers and varmint guns. Gave up on PC and Volquartsen years ago, although they make a great trigger for the Mark III. Never tried Randy's but I am sure they are quality also.
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Old 03-24-2019, 06:33 PM
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I am down to Kidd single stage or trigger kit for my precision guns and Kidd two stage for my benchrest guns. Brimstone on my plinkers and varmint guns. Gave up on PC and Volquartsen years ago, although they make a great trigger for the Mark III. Never tried Randy's but I am sure they are quality also.
THIS^^^^^^^ Finally an appropriate reply ^^^^^^^ To the OP's question.

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