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I would like to see how it turns for you and how he attached the tungsten
To the bolt,if you don't mind Sharing.
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I've ran a EABrown kit from the time they were made available. The ones with the heavy bolt handle. I'd let my kid nephew shoot it, has ran perfectly for 10-12 yrs? I have seen a few split necks from the old first run Hornady stuff. The problem is OOB discharges, nothing diligent chamber cleaning won't correct. BTW, I have a .17HMR conversion that runs perfectly as well.
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I would like to see how it turns for you and how he attached the tungsten
To the bolt,if you don't mind Sharing.
Sure thing. He didn't like the idea of the bolting on the weight a'la VQ, and suggested silver solider on the phone. I sent him a VQ bolt and stock Ruger bolt assembly w/ and w/o a PC weighted charger. He's a smart dude, does motorcycle and AR parts on the side, so I reckon he'll improve whatever I suggest...
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while you are waiting on the bolt you should look for extra power
hammer and return springs, also do not radius the bolt. can not
wait to see how it run for you.
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I've ran a EABrown kit from the time they were made available. The ones with the heavy bolt handle. I'd let my kid nephew shoot it, has ran perfectly for 10-12 yrs? I have seen a few split necks from the old first run Hornady stuff. The problem is OOB discharges, nothing diligent chamber cleaning won't correct. BTW, I have a .17HMR conversion that runs perfectly as well.
The only problems I've seen with any of them is with first-run Hornady's.
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while you are waiting on the bolt you should look for extra power
hammer and return springs, also do not radius the bolt. can not
wait to see how it run for you.
Does your's need more power in the trigger? Mine with the PC handle did fine with stock trigger. I have a KIDD Single Stage 1.5 that was double and triple firing (full auto baby!) but when I called them they said the issue was the hammer hitting the stock (They were right, no surprise) and removing some material fixed it.

Then again, my other buddy who's working on this project with me talked to Joe C. about it and said we needed the heaviest KIDD trigger springs they make.

This kind of work is new to me, so I'm not sure what to believe I reckon I'll try every option I can find.
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just need to slow the bolt down, every bit helps. you want to keep
the bolt closed as long you can ,when it over comes the springs then
the weight of the bolt kicks in.

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22/silencer, i have the wolff extra power hammer spring and a 10% stronger bolt spring. Am using JWH 17 mach2 bolt and eabco barrel / bolt handle conversion. As it is not complete, now is the time to fine tune parts. In your testing is this enough or are there others you would recommend?
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You will need to add weight to the bolt if your barrel
Is longer than 10in . To be safe. And if the bolt handle
Needs to be the heavy one not just large one.

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Old 01-14-2019, 11:22 AM
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I never did use the heavy handle and have not used ebco kit
The people that have have mixed results. And the 17hm2
Is a stock weight bolt . If you have not run 17hm2 before
I would start by removing the bolt ejector so if you have
A kaboom you don't loose it and we are eye and ear protection!!!
And be over safe to start .
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The bolt handle weight is 104.33 g, plus JWH bolt slightly heavier than ruger bolt. As i have been following yours and a couple others threads on 17mach2 conversions, wanted to make sure springs right. It also seems that the new ammunition works well, any that should be avoided?
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JWh radius there bolts and the bolt must not be
Radius in a 17hm2 kit in my testing
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I've ran a EABrown kit from the time they were made available. The ones with the heavy bolt handle. I'd let my kid nephew shoot it, has ran perfectly for 10-12 yrs? I have seen a few split necks from the old first run Hornady stuff. The problem is OOB discharges, nothing diligent chamber cleaning won't correct. BTW, I have a .17HMR conversion that runs perfectly as well.
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The only problems I've seen with any of them is with first-run Hornady's.
I've got an EABCO barrel and heavy handle sitting in a closet. Bought it used from a forum member here a few years ago. I have debated about installing it on my 1967 vintage fingergroove stock 10/22. I'm just scared a kaboom might damage the stock or action and ruin the rifle. You guys are giving me reason to think it might run just fine with current production ammo.

I weighed my parts just to see how they compare with some numbers I've seen posted here
Stock Bolt with firing pin - 6.50oz (184g)
Stock Handle and return spring - 0.83oz (24g)

EABCO Handle and return spring - 2.44oz (69g)
So combined weight of stock bolt and EABCO handle comes out at 8.94oz (253g). Do you guys think this is enough? Should I get a higher power hammer spring? As far as I can tell, the EABCO handle has the same return spring as the stock handle. Wire size looks the same, and I measured about 4lbs per one inch of travel with both.

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All of eabco parts still do not weight as much as the bolt I am using.
You will need to add weight to the bolt and then use and test with your
Parts, check the kaaboom thread of Mark he has this kit.
If anyone that is using a stock bolt it must no be Radius and on a charger
Pistol with a 12in or shorter barrel.if any one to put this kit on a rifle go
And test run 50rounds and look at the brass and see what it is telling you
Also use your eye and ears protection. Then post a picture of the brass
So we can see it then I will do the same if you like. As always be safe.
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check the kaaboom thread of Mark he has this kit.
I did. Looks like he had issues with first run Hornady and the old CCI Fast and Furious ammo. No issues reported after switching to new production Hornady ammo.

Also my stock bolt and EABCO handle weigh exactly the same as what he posted here in another thread.

I think I will purchase the Kidd rod and return spring kit. The original rod on the EABCO handle has horrible tooling marks that make it sound like you are drawing a file over it when you pull the handle back. Also will purchase a Wolff power spring kit.

If the bolt needs more weight, changing the steel roll pin that keeps the firing pin in place for a piece of solid tungsten rod may add a few grams. I do not have the skill or resources to machine the bolt and add larger pieces of tungsten.
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