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Old 01-02-2018, 07:55 AM
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The older rifle’s style is gorgeous! Sadly, production standards have
changed too. Your original Zephyr was built by gunsmiths. Current
non-custom rifles are assembled by non-skilled workers. Modern
CNC machining will never approach the level of quality that real
gunsmiths, who were experts at using hand files, could produce.
Cherish the old rifles. We’ll not see their likes again except for
custom guns most of us cannot afford.
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Old 01-02-2018, 12:36 PM
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I'm with you, but however I am optimistic on this rifle. Steyr does know how to build a quality firearm & their attention to detail and quality control is quite good. I'm expecting the gun to perform well up
to it's price point or I wouldn't have jumped. Mine should be in tomorrow. Any recommendations for rings? I usually run a 6.5-20 EFR on most of my go to .22s, but I'm going to try to keep this at sporter weight for competition.
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Old 01-02-2018, 12:45 PM
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Have you had a chance to shoot her yet? I don't have a scope on standby for mine & I don't want to pull anything apart. The suspense is killing me
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Old 01-02-2018, 05:39 PM
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Zephyr II

May not be able to shoot until spring. I’ve had 3 eye surgeries
in the past several months. Eventually I’ll be fitted with prescription
glasses.
I installed BKL 301 double strap 30 mm rings and a Nightforce SHV
scope. This scope is heavy but I do not hunt. I only shoot from a bench.
The coolest feature is the extremely low bolt lift. Remember it does not
have a target trigger. There is 1/8 in take up and a bit of creep that is
beginning to diminish on mine. I’m using the A Zoom aluminum
dummy rounds to prevent dry firing.
Yesterday I pulled the action/barrel from the stock to have a look
at the trigger parts. There is a plastic or polymer box with no window
to access the sear. There are two set screws. One would control pull
weight I believe. However the heads of both set screws have been packed
with a putty-like substance to prevent the application of a driver bit.
It’s true that the lawyers are running the world. But it’s understandable
in this country because so many lawsuits have driven up the cost to do
business. A good example: my wife and I once had a coffee pot with a warning
stenciled on the side “Contents May Be Hot!”

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Old 01-02-2018, 10:54 PM
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Steyr's trigger components for their rifle line are all encased in a polymer housing and unless you have a double trigger or set trigger, you have what they call a "direct trigger".
The direct trigger is factory adjusted and sealed to prevent tampering.
Not being able to see what you have, I'm guessing the adjustments are going to be very similar to their centerfire rifle direct triggers. If that's the case, the front screw is potentially pretravel (don't eliminate pretravel) and the screw most rearward is pretravel weight (which should NEVER be lower than than 11oz). There's another screw that should be visible from the top which is the trigger weight, adjustable 1/8 turn. The might be another screw on the bottom that may be visible after pulling the unit from the stock, sear engagement (controls creep). Never adjust that more than 1/16 of a turn without checking for slamfires...

However, as the manual clearly states, do not break the factory sealant and mess with the trigger.

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Old 01-02-2018, 11:00 PM
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What's your objective diameter on the SHV? I have a Nikon Monarch 5 42mm objective I plan to put on a Zephyr. Not sure which rings yet.
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Old 01-02-2018, 11:12 PM
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The SHV is a 3 x 10 x 42mm. The BKL 301 are 30mm rings and are
fairly high. These rings put the bottom of the objective bell about
a 1/4 inch above the barrel. That leaves enough room to put on a
neoprene scope cover.
Mal, thanks for the info on the center fire Steyr rifles.
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Old 01-03-2018, 09:51 AM
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May not be able to shoot until spring. I’ve had 3 eye surgeries
in the past several months. Eventually I’ll be fitted with prescription
glasses.
I installed BKL 301 double strap 30 mm rings and a Nightforce SHV
scope. This scope is heavy but I do not hunt. I only shoot from a bench.
The coolest feature is the extremely low bolt lift. Remember it does not
have a target trigger. There is 1/8 in take up and a bit of creep that is
beginning to diminish on mine. I’m using the A Zoom aluminum
dummy rounds to prevent dry firing.
Yesterday I pulled the action/barrel from the stock to have a look
at the trigger parts. There is a plastic or polymer box with no window
to access the sear. There are two set screws. One would control pull
weight I believe. However the heads of both set screws have been packed
with a putty-like substance to prevent the application of a driver bit.
It’s true that the lawyers are running the world. But it’s understandable
in this country because so many lawsuits have driven up the cost to do
business. A good example: my wife and I once had a coffee pot with a warning
stenciled on the side “Contents May Be Hot!”
Better to use a wall anchor or old shell casing for dry fire protection.Dummy rounds are just for testing the cycling of a gun.
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Old 01-03-2018, 10:16 AM
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Sound advise Camster. I read about this on this website months ago.
At that time I checked my wall anchors. I have 3 different sizes but
none would fit (too large) in my Ruger Bisley Single Six chambers.
Sometimes you must use what you have on hand.
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Old 01-03-2018, 11:40 AM
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I believe the Yellow colored wall anchors are what fits. Home Depot, Lowes etc.
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The SHV is a 3 x 10 x 42mm. The BKL 301 are 30mm rings and are
fairly high. These rings put the bottom of the objective bell about
a 1/4 inch above the barrel. That leaves enough room to put on a
neoprene scope cover.
Mal, thanks for the info on the center fire Steyr rifles.
No problem. I suspect that the Zephyr uses a trigger system adapted from their centerfire SBS rifles. Hopefully what I wrote applies to the Zephyr II for it's educational value as one should never ever go contrary to what the manual says...
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The dictionary defines zephyr as a gentle breeze. Here in Kansas that's under 15 mph.
And I always the a Zephyr was some sort of a guitar or string instrument.

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Old 01-04-2018, 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Miss-the-mtns View Post
The older rifle’s style is gorgeous! Sadly, production standards have
changed too. Your original Zephyr was built by gunsmiths. Current
non-custom rifles are assembled by non-skilled workers. Modern
CNC machining will never approach the level of quality that real
gunsmiths, who were experts at using hand files, could produce.
Cherish the old rifles. We’ll not see their likes again except for
custom guns most of us cannot afford.

I think the problem isn't with the laborers nor the equipment... but with the management.

They are the one that decides to build a rifle to a certain price point.
- In today's dollar, the original Zephyr would be a $1500 rifle.
- Steyr obviously doesn't think there's a market for such a rifle today.
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Old 01-04-2018, 01:19 PM
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Zephyr II

If this rifle sells well, I wonder if they might offer
a full stock version. They have made full stock centerfire
rifles. Perhaps they could call it the “Mannlicher Classic”
with more traditional styling, high-grade walnut
and double set triggers.
Bingo! There’s your 1500 dollar rifle!
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Old 01-04-2018, 07:17 PM
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Trigger tweak

With judicious application of Smooth Kote in two places, the trigger is now
creep free and very close to two pounds. The first was at the very back of
the firing pin. Pull out the bolt, rotate same and note the flat faced nub
sticking up like a shark fin. Notice it has been lightly polished. Degrease
it then apply Smooth Kote. With the bolt still removed, pull the trigger
a few times while shining a light just inside of the rear part of the receiver.
See the part moving there. Take Smooth Kote in hand and bombs away!
I just released two drops and then put the rifle to bed for the night.
(Last night.) This gives the dry lube time to dry.
A marked difference in pull weight today. Scouts honor I did not nor will I
mess with the afore mentioned set screws having the putyfied chastity
plugs. She’s still a virgin.

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