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NEW !! The ULTIMATE 22LR,22MAG,17HMR,17? Conversion

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NEW !! The ULTIMATE 22LR,22MAG,17HMR,17? Conversion
Chief Says : If your expecting a picture = Your out-a-luck this time. My new Rimfire Conversion , = Is without a dought the Ultimate of conversions. This system makes my other conversion
"10-22LR to 10-22 magnum", look like it was out of the 1950's.

Now theres NO trigger setback. NO adding holes to the receiver.
No notch to cut in the Receiver. NO jumping hammer spring . No
light firing pin strikes.

It will work with any 10-22 semiauto ever made. The guns modfications are at a minimum , requiring only conventional hand
tools "no machinist skills" , and can be completed in 10 minutes
even by a 10 year old. Theres NO "2 E-mails w/ 3 attachments ea.". Theres NO plans to complicate matters. Theres NO way to
screw it up or possibly damage your firearm.
In short , Its FOOL-PROOF . Even if you never cleaned a 10-22 ,you could do this conversion = yourself.

GOOD = Anyone who has a 10-22LR , Can now have the option
of having a 22 magnum , a 17HMR and/or a 17 LR , With nothing
more than buying the barrel for the caliber wanted.
With my conversion (parts) you can turn your present 10-22LR
into the ultimate " combo -gun".
If you can fit a barrel to it (any rimfire caliber) this baby will shoot it!

BETTER = You can turn it back into a 10-22LR at any time (in 10 minutes) or however long it takes you to swap the barrels.
It is a Conversion " NOT a SWITCH". After you modify your stock
to accept the larger magnum magazine= thats it. Tomarrow if
you decide to target shoot with it as a 22 LR. You will be able to
and even use the factory 22LR magazine : no cobble job-here:

BEST - Chief HAS GOT IT ,! no Lizard promises here! Its gonna
be Patented , therefore it cant be FREE. Afterall it is the CONVERSION "parts" = not plans like the older type conversion.
These install in 10 minutes. And uninstall in 10 minutes.

Parts are being made as we speak , Patent process starts Monday AM. The conversion parts will be available and marketed
at a more than fair price. Theres only one thing that could stop
the conversion from being marketed .
RUGER CO. could cut me a check for $1,000,000.00
Later they will wish they had. HOW many 10-22LR owners out there would like to shoot a 17HMR in their present "custom"
10-22lr. If they could ? would they bother buyin a 77-17 ? I think not.

PLEASE REPLY - WITH YOUR OPINION.
sorry - no pics or more informtion avail.
CD. "not VHS."


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#28 ·
To ChiefDave,

We are all salivating and in great expectation of a DO ALL Rimfire
10/22/17/MAG .

Yea I want one also. YOU build it and we will buy it.

The great thing about you is that you are a lot more accessible
than Ruger.
their quality control has gone out the window.
such a shame. they used to have a pretty decent product .

Really appreciate your helpful insight.

Thanks
 
#29 ·
Hmmm. This interests me a good deal, as the more I see .17 related parts, ammo, articles, and people touting the virtues of it, the more I think I need a .17HMR. :D It would be much easier to find a 10/22 LR receiver to start with rather than a .22 mag receiver, as my left hand status necessitates a 10/22 donor if I'm to come in under $1000 (bolt rifles are nice, but waaay too costly for a highly accurate out-of-the-box example).
 
#43 ·
First off I want to say howdy to all. I have been surfing this site for some time just havent been able to log in.

Chief my hats off to you for coming up with such an idea, I have a couple of 10/22's that I would like to fix up, and your kit would offer a whole lot more options!! When you go into production add me to your list a couple of kits!! :t keep up the good work!!

ALL HAIL CHIEF :D
 
#46 ·
This sounds too cool.

I am going to take my best shot at guessing how this is done.
I'm not doing this for any other reason but to get this out of
my design mind.

After looking at a 10/22 lr receiver and mag, I have deduced a
few key factors.

1. For the Magnum magazine to fit, there must be more space.
So, the front of the trigger group must be shortened by 3/8", which
is the approx. difference between the LR and Mag receivers.

Physically this space must exist, or no magnum magazine could fit.

2. Chief Dave says that the reciever requires no machining to accept
the conversion. The 10/22 LR receiver will interfere with the Magnum
magazine, unless........ the magazine is machined, on it's rear top sides.
This step cut would allow the mag to clear the LR receiver. Also, it looks
loke th eLR bolt will recoil far enough rearward to pass over and pick
up a magnum or 17 round.

My best guess is that CD is building a new, shortened trigger group,
that will accomadate a Magnum magazine, and an insert that will fill
the void necessary to fit the LR magazine. But, the magnum magazine
will most likely be modified to some degree, in order to clear the step
cut on the LR receiver.

Here is the hitch, CD says that it is a conversion, not a "switch". This
statement throws me a bit. Switch can mean remove and replace.
But conversion implies that certain parts are removed and replaced
with new parts. Hence if I am right, or close in my guess, you will install
the new shortened trigger group, i.e. the conversion, and then remove or
install the conversion extension to the front of the new trigger group.

I could be totally wrong, but I think I am close. CD said it was so simple
after he discovered the process, much like our Dual action lever. So I understand
the discovery process, and admire his new find.

Once again, I'm not trying to let any cat out of the bag, for I have no cat.
But, CD, if I am right, do I get an atta boy after you release this product?

Let me know, maybe we can trade some conversions for an AUG stock. I know you
have a Muzzlelite, but you still don't have any of my stuff yet....haha.

Can't wait to see it and try it out. Seriously CD, we do build our SGs in magnum and 17,
and I would be interested in testing your application in our conversions. I would be a
serious player in selling and making these an integral part of our bull pup stocks, and
future new products.


Thanks,
I love this whole innovation design thing, I thrive on it.

More power to you CD,

Matt
IWD
 
#47 ·
Well Ironwood, that's what I was thinking also. Maybe a trigger housing that you have to install your LR guts into (minus a few parts) and the modded mags. You would still need to open the stock up a little for the magnum magazine.

Already have a new take off magnum barrel and thinking about CD's old conversion with a little different twist. Modding the mags as you described, getting a new bare trigger housing from Ruger, then using the factory holes in the receiver, drill the trigger housing and tap it. Then install allen head capscrews to hold the housing in place through the factory holes. Has anyone done this and is there a reason it will not work?
 
#49 ·
Gunter,
Yea, the mags are the X factor. They would absolutely have to be
modified to fit, other wise they would not line up for proper cartridge
feeding. The mags could easily be cut on a milling machine, only
needing a little trimming on the top rear sides.

I am excited about CD's new product. I truly is innovative, whatever
it is. And if it works as good as described, it will be a definite hit.
I know I will be interested in multiple units.

Matt
IWD
 
#50 ·
A Big Design Staff

Or else…there is no idea and CD is wanting to get people thinking!!!:D

What better way to develop new products than to tell your design staff that a product exists and we don't know how they did it or what it looks like or what it costs or how it works…:p

Just wondering…that is all…:)

Brad
 
#51 ·
Chief Says : WELL , I wondered when someone was going to guess it correctly .
I gave everything in information , except a picture of it.
Right , only I said slight , very slight modfication to the gun ,
: meaning: " remove a bit of material for the magnum mag to fit.
thats it.
Matt has gave you the swap / conversion / definition correctly.
Conversion = in with trigger assembly and magnum magazine.
add choice of 22 mag or 17HMR Barrel , your set.
If you wish to go back to 22 Long Rifle , just remove the magazine and trigger assembly = replace your trigger/ mag./&
barrel and your ready. The small corners removed from the receiver will not effect the gun in 22 LR configuration.
The trigger assemblies must be modified , shortened , and new castings made to precise deminsions in order for the bolt to have
adequate clearance to strip and load the ammo from the magazine. The ejector , bolt hold open device are eliminated.
A new bolt buffer is used..

Doesnt take alot to figure out if you know your actions. But takes
a bunch of money to get it in action.
suppose ya want a picture now ?
 
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