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Old 11-23-2019, 10:22 PM
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My K10/22T was stovepiping with the factory magazine. I've had it apart several times to clean it, and I suspect that I over-wound the spring and took the "action" out of it. It will not feed properly with my semi-auto, but works great with my son's bolt-action RPR, so that's fine. I bought a new magazine that feeds fine.
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Old 11-24-2019, 09:44 AM
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When you get the VQ extractor it will come with a new spring. Don't use the new one, keep the original spring installed with the new extractor. I'm assuming you meant extractor and not ejector hopefully.
I did mean extractor (sorry), OK I'll use the original spring. Just curious why I shouldn't use the spring that comes with it ?
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Old 11-24-2019, 12:39 PM
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You problem could be your magazine.

https://www.rimfirecentral.com/forum...d.php?t=806601

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Old 11-24-2019, 04:12 PM
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When you get the VQ extractor it will come with a new spring. Don't use the new one, keep the original spring installed with the new extractor. I'm assuming you meant extractor and not ejector hopefully.
I did mean extractor (sorry), OK I'll use the original spring. Just curious why I shouldn't use the spring that comes with it ?
There were several people who were having problems still after installing them with the new spring. The problems seem to go away when the OEM spring was reinstalled. Not sure why. Years ago I seen that it was recommended when I got my first one. I put VQ extractors in every 10/22 OEM bolt with the original spring now and I've never had a problem so I continue to do it.
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Old 11-25-2019, 10:05 AM
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The extractor doesn't even come into play in normal firing operation. This is a blowback design, and the extractor basically is for removing live ammo. There was a youtube video shooting a 10/22 without the extractor installed. If it is needed for an assist in operation, you have other problems. Although several things can cause operational problems, number one on my list is check the chamber / leade area for the carbon / powder buildup.......dreaded "black ring". We know about that.... right? The second thing I would check are the magazines. Make sure they are clean and properly assembled. Here is how to do that:

https://www.heypete.com/pete/shooting/rugermag.html

Having trouble with your 10/22 isn't any fun. It's a fairly short list of what could be wrong, and most are an easy fix. Good luck! ....... AH

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Old 11-27-2019, 09:39 AM
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The extractor doesn't even come into play in normal firing operation. This is a blowback design, and the extractor basically is for removing live ammo. There was a youtube video shooting a 10/22 without the extractor installed. If it is needed for an assist in operation, you have other problems. Although several things can cause operational problems, number one on my list is check the chamber / leade area for the carbon / powder buildup.......dreaded "black ring". We know about that.... right? <img src="https://www.rimfirecentral.com/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Smilie" class="inlineimg" /> The second thing I would check are the magazines. Make sure they are clean and properly assembled. Here is how to do that:

https://www.heypete.com/pete/shooting/rugermag.html

Having trouble with your 10/22 isn't any fun. It's a fairly short list of what could be wrong, and most are an easy fix. Good luck! ....... AH
All of these things were already mentioned that the op do before anything else. I understand what the extractor is used for. I've had 10/22's that would have ftf's, fte,'s, etc. and changing the extractor had always seamed to cure the problem for whatever reason. I always make sure everything else you mentioned has been done first.
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I'll just add:

Clean well including using a brush if you don't already do that.

Dry lube like everyone else said.

I have 4 10/22's. One was harder to pull the bolt back then the rest and would jam with std velocity ammo. Replaced the guide rod assembly and all was well, can now use whatever ammo I like.

BTW-lots off people at the range will come by and say you have to use the copper coated or high velocity ammo. Like everyone else said any good ammo should work.
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Old 11-27-2019, 11:38 AM
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All of these things were already mentioned that the op do before anything else. I understand what the extractor is used for. I've had 10/22's that would have ftf's, fte,'s, etc. and changing the extractor had always seamed to cure the problem for whatever reason. I always make sure everything else you mentioned has been done first.
I have Kidd bolts in mine. With my rifles, I seem to rule out the extractor as being a problem. I've had the Kidd bolts so long, I seem to take the fact they work so well as a given. However, I do remember why they are in my rifles. They just work. However, I do have some new extractors in my 10/22 parts bag just in case.
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Old 11-27-2019, 01:39 PM
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A wise man once told me,"if what yer doin aint working try something else".
Ive had enough 'odd problems' with stuff that did not respond to the conventional wisdom to learn to do the conventional first and iffn it dont work think outside the box.
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Old 11-27-2019, 01:52 PM
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All of these things were already mentioned that the op do before anything else. I understand what the extractor is used for. I've had 10/22's that would have ftf's, fte,'s, etc. and changing the extractor had always seamed to cure the problem for whatever reason. I always make sure everything else you mentioned has been done first.
I have Kidd bolts in mine. With my rifles, I seem to rule out the extractor as being a problem. I've had the Kidd bolts so long, I seem to take the fact they work so well as a given. However, I do remember why they are in my rifles. They just work. <img src="https://www.rimfirecentral.com/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Smilie" class="inlineimg" /> However, I do have some new extractors in my 10/22 parts bag just in case. <img src="https://www.rimfirecentral.com/forums/images/smilies/tup.gif" border="0" alt="" title="thumb" class="inlineimg" />
Kidd extractors are great. I have several Kidd bolts and I've also never had a problem with any of them. I do however, like you, keep a couple extra in my range bag just in case. Most if not all of the aftermarket bolts use their own extractor. I was just refering to Ruger OEM ones.
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Old 11-27-2019, 02:42 PM
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If the extractor is working as it should it will hold the casing in place until it hits the ejector on the magazine.
I put a Kidd bolt in a gun 5 years ago and loved it. then 2 years ago I got another Kidd bolt for a GM HT build I was doing. I had a lot of stove piping going on ( not ejecting ). When I ordered the second bolt I also ordered 2 extractors. I checked and checked everything to solve the stove piping with no luck. Finally I took out the new Kidd bolt and replaced it with the 5 year old Kidd bolt, and the problem was solved.
I then took the extractor out of bolt #2 and noticed it looked different than the one in bolt #1, but it was the same as the 2 extras I had ordered. All three of the extractors caused stove pipes, but when the extractor from bolt #1 was put in they stopped. I called Kidd and told them I was having problems with their new design extractor, and they told me there was no change made, and send the bolt back. I told them I would fix it myself and got a VQ and solved their problem that they told me didn't exist.

Old Kidd extractor on the left, the middle and one on the right are the newer ones that they said their was no change made to.
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Old 11-27-2019, 06:19 PM
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I seem to remember hearing about Kidd changing the style of their extractors for a little bit a while back.
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