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Old 09-26-2019, 11:31 PM
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Feddersen 16.25 Bull BBL install, 1983 10/22 Sporter



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Hey all, new guy here. Wanted to say thanks for all the good info. Looking forward to seeing and hearing about your rifles and shoots. Also want to catch up on all the trick stuff Iíve been missing over the years. This is my old 1983 10/22 sportier, with same vintage Leupold 3x9x40. Itís been on a bunch of midnight frog leg hunts over the years. It generally shoots about 1Ē at 50yds, but Iíve always wanted a tack driver, so after my last trip to the range where I shot my friendís Ruger Precision Rimfire (one ragged hole at 50yds), I pulled the trigger on some upgrades. Did a bunch of googling and reading here on RFC, decided on the Feddersen 16.25Ē threaded bull bbl, the Ruger drop-in BX trigger group, a Hogue stock, and a bipod, to keep it pretty budget friendly. Just received my goodies a few days ago and I gotta tell you, Feddersen was a pleasure to deal with. Great service over the phone, and fast shipping. Cheers!
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Old 09-26-2019, 11:40 PM
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Well, I was *planning* to go to the range and do some good before/after groups and comparos, with pics and such, but I got impatient and just went ahead and did the install.

- F.J.Feddersen 16.25 threaded bull bbl.
- Hogue overmold stock
- Ruger BX trigger group

It was pretty simple, casual hour and a half at the workbench with a cocktail.

Disassembly was easy. Remove scope, trigger group, bolt. The original bbl came out very easy, just a slip fit.

Cleaned the receiver and bbl mating surfaces with a brass brush and carb cleaner.

Applied some moly anti-seize to receiver and bbl mating surfaces.

The new Feddersen bbl was a slightly tighter interference fit, and wasnít able to seat all the way by hand, so used an automotive heat gun to heat the receiver to uncomfortably hot without gloves, and the bbl slipped right in. While it was still movable by hand, I lined up he bbl notches by eye, and used the v-block and just snug bbl screws to get the notches completely square. Made sure the extractor mated up to the bbl notch, and cinched the bolts down by hand to a ďhand calibrated 1 foot poundĒ, alternating side to side like lug nuts.

The BX trigger group dropped right in, and I had to use some new Weaver medium scope rings vs the low rings to get the scope bell to clear the bbl.

Hogue stock bolted right up.

Looking forward to finally getting to the range! It always shot best with CCI SV, and maybe marginally better with Federal Target. Iíll try an assortment of ammo thru it this weekend and experiment with the stock screw tension. If youíve got any suggestions, Iím glad to hear them. Thanks!
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You should have a great shooting 10/22 now. I have 3 10/22's with Feddersen .920 barrels and they are all tack drivers. A little advice on the V-block you only want to tighten the screws to about 10 in/lbs. As far as the TD screw every one of my 10/22's seems to shoot best between 18 - 22 in/lbs. Good luck.
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Old 09-27-2019, 11:55 PM
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WARNING!! .......... Shooting your upgraded rifle may cause involuntary smiling and grinning, and perhaps you may be seen giggling or drooling. Be careful! YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!! Good job! ........ AH
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Good choices.

Personally though, I hate to see an older Deluxe Sporter broken up. I know 10/22's of that era aren't considered particularly collectible (yet?), but it's still a nice old rifle the way it was.

Wouldn't take much to complete the upgraded rifle with all new parts and put the DSP back in original order.

All you'd need is a receiver, bolt, and a few odds and ends like pins, a V-block, and action screw. If you shop hard all that can be had for about $125, maybe less (assuming comparable parts such as a Ruger factory receiver).

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That’s a real nice first build! Congratulations! It’s similar to my first build . Hogue overmold KSA barrel and a Hornet Black Max, no bx triggers then, latter upgraded with a Jwh bolt and charging handle.

As for the sporter stock, Now that you’ve got the build bug, there is no cure, mine now Sports a 20 inch GM sporter barrel, Brimstone tier 2 and Jwh bolt and charging handle. S&P out fitters for the receiver and pins and v block, code RFC gets you 5% off, send the old Trigger to Brimstone, Rimfire Sports for the GM barrel about $300 bucks in parts and it will amaze you!

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Old 09-28-2019, 08:36 AM
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Nice clean looking rifle, hope it exceeds your expectations. I have more shooting and tinkering fun with 10/22 than everything else. Bird Dog has a point! I changed one part at a time until I had three rifles and five barrels.

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Old 09-30-2019, 10:28 AM
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Good choices.

Personally though, I hate to see an older Deluxe Sporter broken up. I know 10/22's of that era aren't considered particularly collectible (yet?), but it's still a nice old rifle the way it was.

Wouldn't take much to complete the upgraded rifle with all new parts and put the DSP back in original order... snip ...
Thanks Bird Dog. I had the same thought, and depending on how this one goes and how much I actually use it, I may take your suggestion and put it back to stock. The tinkerer in me has already been pricing the bits Iíll need.

Planning to take it out to the range tomorrow for its first shoot. 👍
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Old 09-30-2019, 10:32 AM
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Thatís a real nice first build! Congratulations! Itís similar to my first build . Hogue overmold KSA barrel and a Hornet Black Max, no bx triggers then, latter upgraded with a Jwh bolt and charging handle.

As for the sporter stock, Now that youíve got the build bug, there is no cure, mine now Sports a 20 inch GM sporter barrel, Brimstone tier 2 and Jwh bolt and charging handle. S&P out fitters for the receiver and pins and v block, code RFC gets you 5% off, send the old Trigger to Brimstone, Rimfire Sports for the GM barrel about $300 bucks in parts and it will amaze you!
That 20Ē GM Sporter bbl looks great! Thanks for the input.
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Old 10-28-2019, 01:26 PM
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Planning to take it out to the range tomorrow for its first shoot. 👍
Without photos, it didn't happen!

Seriously, I've been thinking about duplicating your build (my first semi-serious 10/22 mod/build) and following your thread. Happy with it?
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Looks good! If it shoots anything like my Kidd, it should be an accurate SOB. The first time I went to the range with my Kidd barrel and some SK standard I was pissed because I fired a 5 shot group and only saw one hole through my scope. I thought somehow I had missed with the rest, like my reticle in the scope crapped out. Until I went down range and found they all went through the same ragged hole. Incredible what a 10/22 can do with a quality barrel, trigger and ammo.
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Old 12-19-2019, 10:47 PM
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The new Feddersen bbl was a slightly tighter interference fit, and wasn’t able to seat all the way by hand, so used an automotive heat gun to heat the receiver to uncomfortably hot without gloves, and the bbl slipped right in. While it was still movable by hand, I lined up he bbl notches by eye, and used the v-block and just snug bbl screws to get the notches completely square. Made sure the extractor mated up to the bbl notch, and cinched the bolts down by hand to a “hand calibrated 1 foot pound”, alternating side to side like lug nuts.

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I finally got around to the quick job of installing the barrel and Hogue stock a couple of days ago. I watched the Kidd and Brownells 10/22 barrel install videos. I torqued the screws to 45 inch-lbs, per Brownells' recommendations. Per the Kidd video, I used an oven at 250 degrees F to pre-heat the receiver, and I applied anti-seize to the barrel tenon. I could easily get the barrel started into a cold receiver but, without pre-heat, I was worried the resistance might become problematic before the barrel fully seated. With heat, it slid right in with no effort. I used Kidd's bubble level technique to true the receiver to the barrel in a vice after the barrelled assembly cooled a bit.

Yesterday, I took advantage of a balmy 25 degree afternoon high temperature to shoot it at 50 yards in the snow.

WOW!

I first fired about three mags worth of crappy Remington Thunderbolt ammo for a function check and barrel "break-in." (I'm not sure there really is such a thing as barrel break-in.) I was cold and I didn't think I'd do much more than just shoot up a little Thunderbolt crap and then clean the barrel well, but I noticed that following the traditional barrel break-in ceremony of cleaning after every shot seemed pointless. The barrel was shooting cleaner than any rimfire I've ever seen (VERY clean) from the very first shot and cleaning patch. I also noticed that the usually somewhat dirty Thunderbolts were shooting better than I'd ever seen them shoot (decent accuracy against Timothy grass poking through the snow and perfect reliability). I was already getting pretty cold but, after easily cleaning the barrel to perfection and still failing to find much dirt, I hauled the bag rests, folding bench, and extra paraphernalia out of the barn, benched the rifle, and got semi-serious with some Mini-Mags. It was way too cold to lay prone on the snow. I fired five Mini-Mag rounds on a little round Dollar Tree sticky target at 50 yards. (I usually test accuracy with 10-shot groups but my hands were nearly frozen so I quit early.)

WOW!!! (Did I say that already?) Even with the first "high flier" from the pristine and cold barrel, the 5-shot group measured 0.30" ctc. The remaining four holes (more like one hole) measured 0.23" ctc!

It's early days but I know this thing will shoot well beyond 50 yards and I think I've found my low-cost sub-MOA 100-yard 22LR!
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Go buy some SK, Wolf, Ely, SV ammo and youll really be impressed,
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Old 12-19-2019, 10:58 PM
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BTW, my Hogue is slightly floating the barrel right out of the box and I haven't yet Dremeled away any of the contact area pads in the stock near the receiver to create a little fore end tip pressure (per Hogue's recommendations for bull barrels). I can slip a couple of dollar bills in between the barrel and the fore end. Given my initial results, I'm not sure I want any tip pressure! Where are your Hogue stocks ending up (floating or tip pressure bed)?
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