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Old 10-11-2021, 09:49 PM
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Springfield 87A Questions



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Hello, I'm hoping I can get some information on the Springfield 87A my grandfather gave me.

It's a Springfield 87A with a wooden stock. He's had it for many years but it's not his main .22 rifle - he still has the Remington he bought new in the early 1950s.

Before I brought it home, we did some target practice with it, it shoots well - it only had one jam, and we were using some cheap old ammo at the time. The locking bolt feature was great for trying out some subsonic rounds.

But, it has one quirk when loading - my grandpa said he had trouble loading it when it was empty. If you put rounds in the tube when the bolt handle is forward, and try to pull the handle back to chamber a round, it will jam. You have to lock the bolt handle back, then fill the tube, then let the bolt handle forward, and cycle it again to finally chamber a round. Is this normal for this rifle? I've seen youtube videos where they don't seem to do that when loading this model of rifle.

When I took it home, I noticed there was a rattle in the rifle, so I separated the action/barrel from the stock and I found an unfired round sitting between the stock and the action. I don't see how it could have gotten there. Has anyone else experienced this?

I gave it a good cleaning and managed to get some gunk out. I put it all back together and put some snap caps in to test feeding, but I guess I shouldn't have used plastic ones since they jammed in the feed. I was able to get them out with some gentle prodding, but I have some metal ones on order to test feeding in the future.

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A little more background if you're interested.

He got it many years ago after trading a 22 LR pistol for it from a friend, since my grandmother said, no pistols in the house while the grandkids are young. He kept this rifle in the shed by his garden in case he found any animals eating his tomatoes. The rifle is in great shape considering it was mostly left in that shed, which is definitely not climate controlled.

It came with sling mounts but no sling, so I've since put one on. It also looks like someone tried to paint it black at some point and it started to come off a while ago.

I'll try to post some pictures later.

Thanks!
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Old 10-12-2021, 12:11 AM
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I just bought one of these a few weeks ago. Neat rifles and fun to shoot. I had to clean out the magazine tube on mine. Everything I've learned about it has come from the Internet.

I can load mine with the bolt open or closed, but generally load it with the bolt open. After the last round I lock the bolt open and check to make sure it's unloaded and put the safety on. Then I load it as you descibed.

I have no idea how a round got between the stock and the action. That's a new one on me.

I've attached a pic of the rifle as I got it. It had a short Weaver side mount bracket on it and the scope was too far back. I replaced it with a long Weaver side mount bracket to move the scope forward.

I've also attached an exploded view of the rifle and the "manual". Numrich still has many parts in stock if you need anything.

Edit - I see it's your first post. Welcome, there is lots of good info available here. A thread you might like:

https://www.rimfirecentral.com/forum...d.php?t=344753

Here is a video covering disassembly, information quality is better than the video quality:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5C05ZBD8FU
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Old 10-13-2021, 04:57 PM
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I just noticed during disassembly, am I missing the 'Cartridge Guide Spring?' In photos I've seen of this rifle, it has a spring located in the slots, which are empty on mine.

https://imgur.com/a/Z36A4UM
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Old 10-13-2021, 06:01 PM
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Without the cartridge guide spring a cartridge can move 'up' in the cartridge guide' before it's supposed to and can allow another round in under it jamming the action. with the bolt open the lifter is up blocking all cartridges from entering the cartridge guide so the jamb cannot happen - then when the bolt is closed to allow a round into the cartridge guide the friction of the rear of the next round pushing on it helps keep it from moving up, occasionally one still might move up and cause a jam.

If you load it with the bolt closed and do not turn it upside down it will probably not jamb, hold it upright at a slight angle and try it, the first round then should stay at the bottom of the cartridge guide (don't shake it!).

The spring also delays the lifter from raising the feeding round so the bullet will not rub on the bolt as it opens.
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Old 10-13-2021, 06:22 PM
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Without the cartridge guide spring a cartridge can move 'up' in the cartridge guide' before it's supposed to and can allow another round in under it jamming the action. with the bolt open the lifter is up blocking all cartridges from entering the cartridge guide so the jamb cannot happen - then when the bolt is closed to allow a round into the cartridge guide the friction of the rear of the next round pushing on it helps keep it from moving up, occasionally one still might move up and cause a jam.

If you load it with the bolt closed and do not turn it upside down it will probably not jamb, hold it upright at a slight angle and try it, the first round then should stay at the bottom of the cartridge guide (don't shake it!).

The spring also delays the lifter from raising the feeding round so the bullet will not rub on the bolt as it opens.
Makes sense, I've been seeing these sort of issues with double feeding. I'm going to order a new spring, and see if that fixes the issue.

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