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Old 10-07-2021, 11:11 AM
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Hello Fellas,

Long time listener, first time caller!

I have recently placed an order for a Vudoo V22 360 in 17M2.....with a field type stock with the ultimate Squirrel getter in mind.

My question to all of you is.....with a maximum budget of say $1,500 for glass....WHAT and WHY would that particular scope be your huckleberry?

Light transmission and optical clarity are must haves. As far as features I think I want:

Side Focus
Lighted reticle option (center only gets higher points)
Zero stop and lockable windage (or capped is fine as well) I dont plan to dial in the woods.
I'm leaning SFP but not 100% sure
3-18X or 4-16X

I have many Leupolds and they are ok but seem to fall short as far as brightness and light transmission in the woods.....especially with leaves on and cloudly days. I box full of price point scopes as well....all underwhelming.


I'd welcome any and all input on this subject.....as I want to buy once, cry once on this one.

I have a couple of contenders but currently but welcome any suggestions and squirrel scope 'theroy".

In the running:

Zeiss Conquest V4 4-16X50 SFP
Trijicon Credo HX 4-16X50 SFP
Trijicon Accupoint 4-16X50 SFP
NightForce SHV 4-14X40 FFP
NightForce NXS 3.5-15X50 SFP

I am open to suggestions and hope to hear some real in-field reports on optical performance.

Thank you all and I look forward to our discussion!

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Old 10-07-2021, 11:15 AM
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If money were no object.....Squirrel Scopes

wow congrats! on the vudoo.
ill be following this thread. good luck with your scope search. post pics and updates on the build!


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Old 10-07-2021, 11:43 AM
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Check out the SWFA 3-15 SS scope with the Mil/Mil reticle and turrets. Excellent reticle for shooting at different distances without having to dial until you get way out there. Excellent dialing if needed. glass is very good in the 6x and 10x I own.

Also, call Doug at CameralandNY and discuss this with him. He is an excellent vendor on this site and knows his products well. Very fair, good pricing, and excellent service. I wouldn't be surprised if he steers you to some of the new Athlon scopes, which are excellent...
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Old 10-07-2021, 01:03 PM
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I have practically lived with a hm2 in the woods last few years.
No joke either.

Scopes.
Lockable windage or elevation. I don’t consider important. Exposed turrents I do consider important.
You say you won’t dial.
You might.
You start pushing hm2 out there to 90 plus yards it can help.

Scope recommendations.
Vudoo action ain’t light.
For shots under 90 yards a Nightforce compact 2.5x10 with moar reticle will do.
Exposed turrents. Great internal lighting.
Can handle shock from handling.
Cost $ 1600.

Next recommendation.
I bought one of these few months ago.
A first focal plane Element Nexus 5x20x50.
Nice bright scope.
Excellent reticle. I got the clean moa reticle.
Exposed turrents. Non locking.
Weighs around 28 oz.
Seems to track nicely.
Has nice zero stop system. Simple and effective.
No slop in turrents and nice and crisp.
You can reach out there with hm2 with with scope.
100 yards shots are cakewalks.
Has illuminated reticle.
Not overly long.

A person can actually use this scope without dialing and be pretty accurate out there too. And close up.
Bigger objective scopes will sit higher over barrel.
This FFP with moa reticle is giving some grand hold over using reticle onnthe closer shots on squirrel heads. Example 10-30 yards.
Has parallax adjustment down to 10 yards.
And this is very helpful on close quarter shots.
I run magnification at 6.5 with leaves on.
This scope is growing on me big time.

Will be great scope to target shoot some if you want with your hm2.
This scope has some universal application.
Can be put on centerfire or even a great shooting 22 lr. And one can reach out there. Has 28 moa is in moa reticle for hold over without dialing.
This scope made by new company tied somewhat with fx Airguns.
Fx Airguns seems are extremely popular for higher end pcp Airguns now.

Scope good for varmints on hm2 as well.
Price around $1499.
I bought mine on sale for $1399.
Got my at camerlady.
Have read where quite a few 22 lr vudoo ownerw have bought this scope online too.

Good luck whatever you decide.

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Old 10-07-2021, 01:52 PM
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I have what I consider the perfect squirrel scope.
4 power Redhead (bass pro) air rifle scope with both lens adjustable.
I've tried hunting with a variable but I'm either on the wrong power or can't make up my mind which power to use.
At one time I owned a Leupold 4 power rimfire scope. It could get pretty dark in the woods but I could look through that scope and it was like turning on a floodlight.
So I recommend a Leupold 4x rimfire.
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Old 10-07-2021, 02:43 PM
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My 457 Synthetic with LW .17m2 barrel wears a Strike Eagle 4-24x with EBR 4 MOA reticle, heavy but bright, clear and lighted if needed, definitely a sit and watch scope.

With the .17m2's trajectory anything from the muzzle to 125 yards is in great danger.
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Old 10-08-2021, 08:13 AM
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Check out the SWFA 3-15 SS scope with the Mil/Mil reticle and turrets. Excellent reticle for shooting at different distances without having to dial until you get way out there. Excellent dialing if needed. glass is very good in the 6x and 10x I own.

Also, call Doug at CameralandNY and discuss this with him. He is an excellent vendor on this site and knows his products well. Very fair, good pricing, and excellent service. I wouldn't be surprised if he steers you to some of the new Athlon scopes, which are excellent...

Great choice. I run a 10x mil/mil side focus on my .22lr multi purpose gun.
I squirrel hunt with it. The reticle like you said is so nice for hunting. Then I can dial for long range plinking. Even at 10x I can shoot up close with clarity with the parallax that goes down to 10yds
I love it.


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Old 10-07-2021, 04:03 PM
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My vote would be for the NF NXS. Probably overkill for a squirrel gun but then again so is a Vudoo. Nothing wrong with excess, especially when it comes to guns.
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Old 10-07-2021, 05:39 PM
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My best scope is March compact, beyond the budget you specified though (and pretty hard on mine as well).

The scopes I own the most of are the discontinued Niko EFRs with AO. I like the clarity, they don't weigh a ton, and can be bought right if you find them.

I was waiting on OPtix5 to come in stock and got impatient and bought the March.

I like SWFA except they are too long for my tastes with the integral sunshade.
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Just curious, but how much does the V22 with the field stock weigh? Iím literally guessing, but wouldnít it be in the 8.5 to 9 lbs range? Iím sure barrel contour and length will vary, but add two pounds of scope and rings, and youíll be over the fully loaded M1 Garand range. As Gerald mentioned, definitely a sit-and-shoot proposition. Sounds like thatís what you want, but are there some smaller Swarovski, S&B, Zeiss, or Leica scopes that could flip your switch?

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Old 10-07-2021, 07:54 PM
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Just curious, but how much does the V22 with the field stock weigh? Iím literally guessing, but wouldnít it be in the 8.5 to 9 lbs range? Iím sure barrel contour and length will vary, but add two pounds of scope and rings, and youíll be over the fully loaded M1 Garand range. As Gerald mentioned, definitely a sit-and-shoot proposition. Sounds like thatís what you want, but are there some smaller Swarovski, S&B, Zeiss, or Leica scopes that could flip your switch?

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Hereís a setup with weight stated.
https://www.rimfirecentral.com/forum....php?t=1177439
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Old 10-07-2021, 10:32 PM
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Mounted on my 17m2 is a Ziess conquest 4.5-14X44 MC, with a graduated reticle, #72 Z800. Its bright, crystal clear, only weighs 17.5oz and parallax adjusts down to about 20yds. Definitely not a bad pick if you want decent magnification, while keeping the weight down.
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i called swfa, asked when those fixed power would be in stock. November
made in Japan

think 12x would be to little field of view?

S1 what you think?


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i called swfa, asked when those fixed power would be in stock. November
made in Japan

think 12x would be to little field of view?

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For 22 lr too my much mag for squirrel hunting.
Would work better for hm2 or hmr.
Estimating your longest shots with 22 lr would be 60 ish.

10x or 8x fixed better choice for leaves off application using 22 lr. Imo.

Both Nightforce shv and NXS 2.5x10 good scopes for 22 lr.
Even hm2.
Moar reticle At 10x only has .16 moa
And reticle by itself at 10x holdover out to 125 yards (roughly 2 moa) doable without even touching the turrents. Shv model has capped turrents. Beware though shv model with illuminated reticle has fixed parallax of 125 yards I think. The NXS model with illumination has full range of parallax adjustment with side focus wheel.
Squirrel at 75 yards perched is in real trouble with good shooting hm2 aiming at head no or little wind. Using moar reticle or even ihr reticle (this model discontinued). Person might find a stray at a dealer though.

The reticle subtension is important. As important as magnification. So don’t get hung up necessarily on just magnification.

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Old 10-08-2021, 04:08 PM
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Well, money has to be an object, because you gave us a limit.

I like the Nightforce NXS, but if you want a great optic, SFP 3-15x, I'd take a look at the Vortex Razor HD LHT line up.

the 3-15x model can be had for around $999.

https://vortexoptics.com/vortex-razo...iflescope.html

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