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Old 09-30-2021, 10:49 PM
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I have begun to shoot longer and longer ranges with my .22 rimfire, I have been using a 20 year old Leupold Vari -X III 4.5 x14 x 40 with a 1” tube, the scope is very clear and I can see the bullet holes on paper at 200 yards, at 300 I can’t, although I can easily see impacts of steel plates. The turrets are target style capped in MOA,and have been very reliable, it does not have a zero stop. With a 20 MOA rail, I have 58” of adjustment above my 50 yard zero. 44” is my 300 yard zero .
Question is would I better served with one of the $650 Athlon Midas Tac scopes in 6 x 24 x 50 with the 30 mm tube? Has anyone compared the optical clarity of the Vari-X III to the Midas Tac? I hear lots of positive about the mid and high range Athlon scopes. Just not sure about swapping the nice old Leupold for a new wave Made in China optic. Even if the latter has many of the new must have Bells and whistles.
Anybody have any working knowledge with these 2 products?
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Old 09-30-2021, 11:30 PM
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No an exact match...but I too shoot rimfire..out to 200 yards...and on two of my rifles I have athlon scopes. A Gen 1 Athlos Argos 6-24 50 (30mm). And a Talos 4-12 40mm (1 inch). These are my only scopes...save a cheap simmons 3-9 32...so not able to compare to Leopold...but very happy with both these..very clear..all the bells and whistles..
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Old 09-30-2021, 11:55 PM
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I have begun to shoot longer and longer ranges with my .22 rimfire, I have been using a 20 year old Leupold Vari -X III 4.5 x14 x 40 with a 1” tube, the scope is very clear and I can see the bullet holes on paper at 200 yards, at 300 I can’t, although I can easily see impacts of steel plates. The turrets are target style capped in MOA,and have been very reliable, it does not have a zero stop. With a 20 MOA rail, I have 58” of adjustment above my 50 yard zero. 44” is my 300 yard zero .
Question is would I better served with one of the $650 Athlon Midas Tac scopes in 6 x 24 x 50 with the 30 mm tube? Has anyone compared the optical clarity of the Vari-X III to the Midas Tac? I hear lots of positive about the mid and high range Athlon scopes. Just not sure about swapping the nice old Leupold for a new wave Made in China optic. Even if the latter has many of the new must have Bells and whistles.
Anybody have any working knowledge with these 2 products?
There's nothing wrong with your Leupold, I think it is probably a custom shop item I don't think there was Target model in the catalog. I assume it has an adjustable objective, what reticle does it have?
Anyhow going from 14X to 24X is likely to be a big advantage at long range.
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This won’t be a exact comparison but I have a Midas tac 4-16 and have had a vx3i 4.5-14 and a vx3i lrp 4.5-14 and the glass is as good on the Midas tac at least to my eyes.
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Anyhow going from 14X to 24X is likely to be a big advantage at long range.
10X more power with a fine reticle? Heck yeah.
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Old 10-01-2021, 01:01 PM
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The Leupold is the same specs as the old Vari-X III Tactical only it is a Gold ring model. The Tactical has a black ring, and says Tactical after the 4.5 x14 x 40 AO on the front scope bell. Most of the gold ring models are duplex but this one is a Mil dot variant just like my Tacticals, these are late 90’s models. I am using them on the guns I hunt with now for deer and predators.
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Old 10-01-2021, 01:29 PM
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Here is a picture of the setup.
Have to figure these photos out. Tried to flip it but no luck.
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Nice scope.

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10X more power with a fine reticle? Heck yeah.
Edit to add~ how do the reticles' thickness compare? Is your intent hunting or targets, or both. Reticles can make or break the deal depending on intended use.
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Old 10-02-2021, 12:26 PM
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Reticles are excellent, about perfect for a target / hunting scope. I use the centerfire guns for hunting mostly but occasionally shoot targets with them.
Since I got the .22, there seems to be little reason to target shoot center fires other than be sure they are ready to use and properly zeroed. I shoot at 1” target dots to 300 yards with good target definition with this reticle without any problems. My main 4 favorites are all scoped with these 4.5 x14 x40 AO Leupolds. The AO can be a bit annoying in the field having to focus it in at various ranges but feel it’s beneficial at longer ranges for more precise work. I get by with the 4.5 for hunting but prefer 3 x 9 for all around hunting situations. My friends use 20 to 36 power scopes on their target .22’s and benchrest guns, but I can keep up with them fairly well at all ranges. Their scopes lack the adjustment needed for long range rimfire.
I guess my question about the 6 x 24 x 50 Midas Tac was about a FFP and numbered reticle for quick range adjustments. I.E. a measured distance on screen of drop or wind from a given POA without losing build quality, clarity or warranty over my Leupold.
Another thing is the benefit of a zero stop and more than 15 MOA of adjustment per turret rotation. Got to be aware of your turret settings when it’s 3 full rotations to a 300 plus zero. More of a problem with .22 than .223 or .308.
I can’t seem to find any fair priced ammo right now, wanting a case of something, but most of my choices are unavailable or 2x the cost of the non gouging suppliers we all appreciate. So thought maybe a new scope that would be a bit more user friendly in the long range .22 rimfire hobby till the ammo is available.
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Old 10-06-2021, 03:34 PM
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Anybody have a 4 x 16 x 44 Midas Tac and a 6 x 24 x 50 Midas Tac? If so any preferences between the 2 ? Also what is the preferred reticle style? Any preference between MOA or MIL? Trying to decide on best for my needs. Just a .22 LR range gun with targets or steel 100 to 350 yards.
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i have just come to know blog that an help you in finding a scope.
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Old 10-20-2021, 05:46 PM
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Joshuasaul, welcome to RFC. The site you linked to is an interesting one, but it is a crossbow site. The 10 scopes featured are all low magnification. The OP is looking for a scope that will let him shoot out to 350 yards. The scopes in that blog will not help him.
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Old 10-20-2021, 06:55 PM
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Might not be what you are wanting and yes, its a new company but I'm really impressed with the two we got. Very good mechanics with turrets that will rival the really high end scopes. Glass is good but maybe not as clear as a $1500 $2000 scope but I really like it for my ELR rimfires. The reticle might look crowded but when I look thru and an concentrating on my target I don't see anything but the floating dot. That stuff below is lighter and unless you specifically look for it you don't even know it's there.

Well worth a look at, I'm switching out my SWFA scopes for Arkens and I've always been a big proponent of the 20x MOA-QUADS for my rimfires. At $450 it's a steal and also has a lifetime warranty.



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Old 10-20-2021, 10:05 PM
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Appreciate the info, I am still using the Leupold 14 x it works pretty decent. Still looking at the FFP scopes in 20 to 24 power on the top end and a graduated reticle.
I notice that the long range centerfire guys seem pretty happy with MIL scopes while lots of rimfire shooters like MOA.
I am going to have to see some of these scopes in person before I take the plunge.
May be a bit longer, got Deer Season and Christmas coming up, both cost money. 😂😂😂

Shot this tonight, had a little wind and the sun had gone down. Couldn’t see holes in my paper anymore so I held center of the plate. The 1” dot was added later for a size reference . I am pretty sure I got all 10 on target, was listening to music and didn’t listen for impacts. As always my picture is turned, the main impacts were at 9:00 on plate. 7 went fairly tight.
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