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Old 10-26-2020, 12:06 PM
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Last Saturday I attended a 22BPCRA Silhouette shoot,,,



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Last Saturday I attended a 22BPCRA Silhouette shoot,,,
I wasn't shooting but had a good time watching the match.

It was chock full of the type of rifle I started this thread about.

All single-shot .22's, rolling block & falling block actions,,,
Mostly they were Stevens type actions,,,
There were a few Ballard actions too.

Sights ranged from simple open sights to very high-dollar looking Verniers,,,
Scopes were 3/4" tubes with external adjusting mounts.

Almost every rifle had some sort of leather cheek riser.

From what I could gather a person would invest a minimum of $2,500 to get started in this sport.

I was taken by surprise at this match,,,
I thought it was a normal Rimfire Silhouette match.

10 Chickens @ 25 yards (offhand)
10 Pigs @ 50 yards (shooting sticks)
10 Turkeys @ 75 yards (shooting sticks)
10 Rams @ 100 yards (shooting sticks)
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40 points total.

Instead it was the same course of fire but at longer range,,,
50, 100, 150, 200 yards for 40 points total,,,
The 50 yard chickens are shot offhand,,,
The others are shot prone with sticks.

The match was made or broken shooting the the chickens.

Out of 14 shooters 6 of them scored 30 on the pig, turkey, ram,,,
The best score on the 50 yard off hand chickens was 4.

I'm just 22 days away from turning 69 years old,,,
Except for one young man in his early 40's,,,
I was the youngest man there.

But, the good thing was that I met a gentleman who had an 1885 Winchester in his truck,,,
I told him that I was currently searching for a new one to buy,,,
He offered to let me shoot a few rounds through his.

I'm very glad that I had that opportunity to shoot his,,,
I might be changing my mind about that purchase.

The rifle truly is a beautiful firearm,,,
I fired ten rounds through it,,,
I actually hit two chickens.

The bad part was that it didn't eject the spent cartridges,,,
I had to dig them out with my fingernail.

Call me crazy but one shouldn't need to do that,,,
Especially with a rifle that cost over $1,200.

One gentleman had this doo-hickey shaped like a fat ball point pen,,,
You pushed the "nib" end of it over the rim or the .22 cartridge,,,
It picked the cartridge up and you inserted it in the chamber,,,
Then you pushed the button on the other end to release it,,,
Then seat it by pushing the whole thing in.

I said, "Is that thing really necessary or is it just more convenient?",,,
He said: "Here, you try it by hand."

I have slender hands and fingers,,,
It was very difficult to chamber a round at all,,,
The presence of the scope made it even more difficult to seat the round.

What an eye opener that was for me,,,
Several shooters used a small dowel to seat the cartridges,,,
Several of them also had some tool to aid in extracting their spent cases.

Everyone there I asked about it said,,,
This was just how those older style actions work.

This problem has been mentioned earlier in this thread,,,
I was somewhat skeptical but I've now seen it,,,
I'm reconsidering my retirement rifle choice.

Aarond

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Old 10-26-2020, 12:31 PM
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Did the 1885 you borrowed have an ejector and still didn't eject, or was it an earlier extractor-only version? Yes, we mentioned all the things you have now realized. This ejection issue is the primary reason I am building my 1885 "match" rifle, to determine the level of ejector reliability in a falling block with a match chamber. So far so good.

So, what are your plans now? The original 1885 Low Wall .22s had a pretty good ejector, and the new 1885 has a very good one, but all the other non-break-open single shots, old and new, do not have ejectors, for the most part.

I assume you saw my PMs?

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Old 10-26-2020, 01:12 PM
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I don't know whether it was an extractor only version or not,,,

I don't know whether it was an extractor only version or not,,,
He said he had owned the rifle for about eight years,,,
I think I remember him saying he bought it used.

This is a case of my own ignorance about these types of rifles,,,
It would never have occurred to me to ask that question.

What I am realizing now is that I have a huge gap in my knowledge,,,
And it might be foolish to buy anything until I fill that gap.

If it was a $300-$500 dollar purchase,,,
I might say what the heck and just go for it.

But for a purchase that is close to a Grand and a Half,,,
I think it will be prudent for me to wait,,,
At least until I learn a lot more.

I'm in hurry and the money is safely tucked away in savings,,,
I'll keep looking and reading until I find "The Gun".

Aarond

P.S. Heck, I might just have a Vernier sight mounted on my little H&R Sportster,,,
According to the match coordinator it would satisfy all the match rules,,,
And I do love break-open action rifles.

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Old 10-26-2020, 01:53 PM
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Patience is a virtue, and a good thing. As I have gotten older, it comes more naturally. In my younger days, it was buy it now, worry about the consequences later.
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I know you specified single shot

Perhaps in these collections may be one...BUT I really like a LOT of TALOs custom creations

http://www.taloinc.com/


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I don't know whether it was an extractor only version or not,,,
He said he had owned the rifle for about eight years,,,
I think I remember him saying he bought it used.

This is a case of my own ignorance about these types of rifles,,,
It would never have occurred to me to ask that question.

What I am realizing now is that I have a huge gap in my knowledge,,,
And it might be foolish to buy anything until I fill that gap.

If it was a $300-$500 dollar purchase,,,
I might say what the heck and just go for it.

But for a purchase that is close to a Grand and a Half,,,
I think it will be prudent for me to wait,,,
At least until I learn a lot more.

I'm in hurry and the money is safely tucked away in savings,,,
I'll keep looking and reading until I find "The Gun".

Aarond

P.S. Heck, I might just have a Vernier sight mounted on my little H&R Sportster,,,
According to the match coordinator it would satisfy all the match rules,,,
And I do love break-open action rifles.

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Hi Aarond,
Please PM your email address. I have a 6 second video I will send you of how my 1885 ejects spent casings. I think you'll be impressed.

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Old 10-29-2020, 11:38 AM
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Thanks for those videos my friend,,,

Thanks for those videos my friend,,,
That is some robust "ejection".

You could put an eye out with that spent cartridge.

Completely unlike the one I tried last week.

Is there a name for that particular style of ejector?,,,
I'm just curious as it looks like the same style as my Polish WZ-48 Trainer.

Aarond

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Old 10-29-2020, 11:50 AM
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No name really, but many confuse the terms ejector and extractor. Any of the new 1885s have an ejector like the one I showed in the video I sent. The two I showed you on GunBroker also have the same ejectors.

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Old 10-29-2020, 01:33 PM
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My University was closed for the ice storm yesterday,,,

My University was closed for the ice storm yesterday,,,
But I had to drive into town anyways.

I popped into The Evil Pawn Shop for a quick visit,,,
Actually I parked out in front and called him from my car.

I always ask if he has any $99.00 single-shots for sale,,,
He did so I was let in to look at it.

I wasn't enamored with the old Marlin so I was leaving,,,
But there was another man in there picking up a new Henry rifle.

It was one of the new single-shots,,,
His was chambered for .357 Mag.

He graciously allowed me to handle it,,,
I have to say that I was quite impressed by it.

It shouldered very well,,,
The action seemed very smooth and tight.

I do like break-open rifles,,,
And this one he had was very pretty indeed.

I was disappointed to find out it wasn't chambered in .22 LR,,,
If it were I might have found my retirement rifle right there.

I'm going to have to pen an e-mail to Mr. Imperato.

Aarond

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Old 10-29-2020, 01:52 PM
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Oh Aaron, Henry sells some beautiful replacement stock sets for the .22 lever actions.

https://henrypride.com/collections/r...09b-h010b-only

Cheers,

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If this is a true "retirement rifle," I would aim higher (no pun) than a Henry. Not a big fan of break-open rifles, mostly due to the inconvenience at the bench, but I almost bought a Luxus Model 11 in .22 Hornet. They are the most elegant looking break-open I've seen, and they handle like a wand. I've seen one or two Model 11s in rimfire, but they are truly rare birds. This one in .270 for $2500 is a great price for one (Sorry to muddy the waters ). This rifle with a spare .22 Hornet barrel would be the bee's knees:
https://www.newenglandcustomgun.com/...ts.php?cat=422

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Old 10-29-2020, 03:42 PM
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I own an H&R Sportster break-open rifle,,,

I own an H&R Sportster break-open rifle,,,
I recently put a red-dot optic on it,,,
Now I'm enjoying the rifle.

It took a while to adjust to it on the bench,,,
But I finally got the technique down.

But the difference between the Henry and the H&R was huge,,,
That difference can be summed up in one word,,,
Smoothness.

The other difference is that the H&R looks like a steam locomotive,,,

The Henry looks like one of those Art Deco Streamliners,,,


But it's a moot point anyways,,,
Unless Mr Imperato decides to make me one in .22 LR.

Aarond

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If you would prefer a break action rifle, why not a T/C G2? There are several custom stock makers that could make something special. There are several barrel makers that could make a barrel to your desired specs. Just a random thought! I have seen pictures of some very nice looking T/Cs.
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Old 10-30-2020, 10:49 AM
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That's not bad advice Flynmoose,,,

That's not bad advice Flynmoose,,,
Thompson Center guns do have a rep for high quality.

For some odd reason their rifles don't hold an aesthetic attraction for me,,,
But I've always thought that a pair of TC pistols in a wooden case,,,
Would be a great pair of Modern Dueling Pistols.

Using the MSRP from their website,,,
A pair of pistols with basic wood stocks,,,
Would run somewhere in the neighborhood of $1,600.00

Them puppies ain't cheap.

It's not so much that I "prefer" a break-open action though,,,
I just don't have the animosity towards them that some folk have.

Now that I've mounted a more practical optic on my H&R,,,
I'm enjoying shooting the little thing more now.

I must admit I get a giggle out of launching the ejected shell back over my shoulder.

Thanks for the recommendation,,,
It gave me a reason to peruse the TC website.

Aarond

P.S. I did send an e-mail to Henry about a .22 LR version of the single-shot,,,
I'm quite certain it won't have any effect on their products,,,
But hey, one never knows unless one tries.

Aarond

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Old 10-31-2020, 12:46 AM
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I have a T/C G2 pistol frame and five barrels, 22LR, 22Hornet, 223, 357, 45ACP, great fun to shoot!
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