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Old 12-11-2012, 08:03 PM
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I've received a documented report of fraud via the Trading Post.

As RFC is not liable for sales via the TPC, I suggest members go to extremes to verify that they are not only dealing with another Member, but that they verify they are not dealing with an imposter (which is what has occurred)

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Old 12-11-2012, 09:05 PM
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Are you saying someone posed as a RFC member to get the buyer to send funds
to them. how would you suggest to verify a member
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Old 12-12-2012, 12:37 AM
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Don't suppose you'd drop the name of the perp, so your brothers don't get jammed again?
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Old 12-12-2012, 01:19 AM
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Are you saying someone posed as a RFC member to get the buyer to send funds
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Stolen laptop according to the "seller" member. Password was in the cookie to RFC, so it did not have to be entered.

As for positive ID, decide for yourself what is satisfactory.
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Old 12-12-2012, 01:41 AM
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Are you saying someone posed as a RFC member to get the buyer to send funds
to them. how would you suggest to verify a member
A picture of the merchandise to be purchased with a piece of paper dated and signed w/ username in the frame might be a decent way to verify, but nothing is 100%.
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Old 12-13-2012, 10:46 AM
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That's pretty insidious!

RFC has always been a place of honor for both buyer & seller.

The standard has always been: The seller honestly represents an item and that once a buyer sends the "I'll take it" message that funds will be sent in a timely manner.
After receiving funds, shipment of an item should likewise be done in a timely manner.

We can take a bit of comfort in the fact that in the instance cited, the 'seller' is not an actual member, but a fake. I recall only once in recent history where an actual member got a set of sights on approval, kept the sights and never paid for them. He was promptly exposed! His name, businss name, business address & phone number was openly posted. We roundly castigated him for his dishonorable and disputable behavior.

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Old 12-13-2012, 12:15 PM
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That's pretty insidious!

RFC has always been a place of honor for both buyer & seller.

The standard has always been: The seller honestly represents an item and that once a buyer sends the "I'll take it" message that funds will be sent in a timely manner.
After receiving funds, shipment of an item should likewise be done in a timely manner.

There are low-lifes out there that would love to take advantage of that honour with baited breath.
Don't for a minute think that only the "good guys" hang out here......

Good common practices to avoid being ripped off are:
  • Check out the other parties TPC (trader feedback) rating.
  • Watch for an abundance of spelling and grammatical errors. A typo here and there is forgivable, but when a listing is riddled with poor English, it's an indication an overseas scammer posted the ad using automated translators—or the person behind the ad just doesn't care about the listing. Either way, you probably want to stay clear.
  • Generic product photos. Look for real photos instead of the typical product pics or photos found elsewhere on the web. It's hard to believe the seller actually has the item in question if he's using PR photos.
  • Too good to be true. The biggest tell-tale sign of a scam is if the ad promises a ridiculously good deal. When you're buying from sellers seemingly desperate to get rid of their used stuff, it's hard to know what's a true offer or just bait for your personal info. Know what your product is selling for and, if you have any doubt, pass on it.
  • DO NOT send large amounts of cash money. It is non-traceable
  • NEVER WIRE FUNDS VIA WESTERN UNION, MONEYGRAM or any other wire service - anyone who asks you to do so is likely a scammer.
  • Never give out financial information (bank account number, social security number, eBay/PayPal info, etc.)
  • Avoid deals with "escrow" services and know that only a scammer will "guarantee" your transaction.
  • Ask detailed questions about the item you want to buy over multiple emails or calls. Does the rifle come extra mags? What color is the bore? What problems or issues with the item has the seller had? Why is this person selling the item? What's the exact model number of the item? Asking questions like this not only gives you more information about the product, it verifies the seller has firsthand knowledge of it.
  • Ask the seller for his address and phone number and look the seller up. See if the address matches. Search the seller's email address and/or phone number through Google.
  • Meet in person when you can and in a public place. Bring a friend or family member when you can.
  • If you meet in person, make sure you test everything well and/or try using the item before you pay for it.

99.9% of the members here are good honest people, but with a little sleuthing and research, you'll most likely end up with a proud purchase instead of a costly mistake.
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