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Old 07-27-2020, 01:27 PM
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I sent my Rossi RS22MW2111 in for warranty work. It gets lots of FTEs and occasional blowback. Also, the cases are all mushroomed at the base. I am guessing that this semi-auto is not going to full battery. I have attached a picture so you can see what I mean.
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Old 07-29-2020, 04:58 PM
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The second shift did it? How about the third shift, or the weekend shift?
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Old 07-29-2020, 06:12 PM
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I have on .17hmrs, AND YOU ARE VERY CLOSE TO AN OUT OF BATTERIE EXPLOSION.

Clean the day-ligths out of your chamber with a bronze brush and many minutes of soaking with your favorite carbon cleaner.
Something is stopping the rounds from fully chambering, and it can be a big deal with a 22WRM/17HMR because they contain over 4 times the powder load of a .22.
It could also be that your bolt is out of timing due to being dirty, or just poor engineering.
Semi auto 22WRM/17HMR's are quite difficult to build correctly.
Volquartsen and the New Savage rife have it figured it out using 2 different methodologies.

We've all heard of 10/22's blowing out there magazines with an out of batterie round.

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Old 07-29-2020, 07:53 PM
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Old 07-30-2020, 12:13 PM
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It's at Rossi.

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I have on .17hmrs, AND YOU ARE VERY CLOSE TO AN OUT OF BATTERIE EXPLOSION.

Clean the day-ligths out of your chamber with a bronze brush and many minutes of soaking with your favorite carbon cleaner.
Something is stopping the rounds from fully chambering, and it can be a big deal with a 22WRM/17HMR because they contain over 4 times the powder load of a .22.
It could also be that your bolt is out of timing due to being dirty, or just poor engineering.
Semi auto 22WRM/17HMR's are quite difficult to build correctly.
Volquartsen and the New Savage rife have it figured it out using 2 different methodologies.

We've all heard of 10/22's blowing out there magazines with an out of batterie round.


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It is currently at Rossi in Georgia and it is clean as a whistle. Apparently, no actually reads an entire post.
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Old 07-30-2020, 12:25 PM
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To be clear, no where in your Original Post did you say anything about it being "clean as a whistle", or for that matter anything at all about cleaning.

Therefor I just mentioned how important it is to have a spotless chamber.

You did of course say it's currently at Rossi, which is exactly where it should be.
I hope they can figure it out before someone gets hurt.
As I also mentioned it may also have something to do with your bolt.
So time will tell.

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Old 07-30-2020, 01:03 PM
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It's a brand new gun. I cleaned it thoroughly after each outing (shot it twice). I appreciate that you are trying to help, but did you notice that it as at Rossi? That was in the original post. I asked if anyone had seen this phenomenon. I even said I suspected it wasn't in battery. I can't find information on the internet about this. BTW, batterie is a dance move, battery is when the bolt is locked and ready to fire.
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Old 07-30-2020, 01:52 PM
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"I appreciate that you are trying to help, but did you notice that it as at Rossi?"

Of course, that's why I mentioned it.
And you keep adding info that wasn't in your OP.
Like it's brand new, you only shot it twice, and cleaned it after each outing.

I will have to brush up on my mind reading.

And yes, I have seen this problem before, and it has been caused by either dirty chambers (apparently not your case), or poor engineering.
That poor engineering caused Remington to pull its rifles from the market, and other brands to become famous for out of battery* detonations.
In this case it certainly could be something else, which is why I stated that "time will tell."

Savage came up with an inexpensive design to cure the timing issue. I believe they Patented it.

Volquartsen did it with a super heavy Tungsten/Steel bolt (15oz's) that's the same size/dimensions as normal 10/22 bolt. That's how they solved the timing challenge.

I have no personal experience with the Rossi, so it will be interesting to see how this is resolved.

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Old 07-30-2020, 05:17 PM
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Thanks. I'm waiting to hear what Rossi says, if anything. It arrived there on 7/14. They haven't looked at it yet. I have attached their "repair status". Meanwhile, I bought a Marlin XT-17VR that I have to pick up on Saturday.
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MNBobster, so when are you picking up the Marlin?
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Saturday morning. It is at the Sportsman's Warehouse in Coon Rapids, MN. I live in White Bear Lake, MN 27.5 miles away. I ordered the last available XT-17 of any model they had. Luckily, it had the heavy barrel.
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Old 07-31-2020, 04:42 PM
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Had identical cases from a Savage HMR, in my case it was excess headspace. Savage replaced the rifle.
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Saturday morning. It is at the Sportsman's Warehouse in Coon Rapids, MN. I live in White Bear Lake, MN 27.5 miles away. I ordered the last available XT-17 of any model they had. Luckily, it had the heavy barrel.
Update: Had to leave work early (long story there). Had time to pick up the XT-17VR, Clean it, mount a new Vortex Copperhead 4x12x44 (New from warranty return), Oil it, and put it out my wife's radar in the gun locker. Whew! I don't think I have a .17 arbor for the boresighter, but I will see tomorrow. Busy day.
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Old 08-02-2020, 07:55 AM
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Thanks. I'm waiting to hear what Rossi says, if anything. It arrived there on 7/14. They haven't looked at it yet. I have attached their "repair status". Meanwhile, I bought a Marlin XT-17VR that I have to pick up on Saturday.
I hope you are as happy with your XT VR as I am with mine. Good luck with the Rossi.
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Old 08-02-2020, 08:19 AM
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Question to be answered now is, what did Rossi tell you was causing the problem. I think we would all like to know.
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