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at 15 yards or less the group size for anything that will function will essentially be the same. You will only see difference in grouping at 25 yards or more and then from a bench. Match ammunition at powder burn distances is a waste of money. <img src="https://www.rimfirecentral.com/forums/images/smilies/sthumb.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Blue Thumb" class="inlineimg" />
Sounds like good advice. I always test multiple types of ammo in all my guns though. It's just something I enjoy doing.
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Old 04-08-2021, 05:03 AM
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If it is feeding fine and jamming on firing try a Volquartsen Exact Edge extractor.
It is feeding fine and jamming on firing. I stripped it and cleaned it really well and the problem continued.

I'm trying to decide between ordering Volquartsen internals and sending the gun to Ruger to get reblued. Ruger will also replace the worn parts and test the function before sending it back.
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Old 04-08-2021, 05:15 AM
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I have 2 Ruger MkIIs. Early on I replaced the extractors with good aftermarket ones (the slab side has one from Clark Custom Guns, the MkII Gov't a Volquartsen). With HV ammo I've never had a failure to function, with SV I only had a few, all before the extractor change if memory serves. I seldom shoot pistols any more but when I do I use HV ammo. I see no reason not to. It's usually cheaper and frequently more reliable. In my hands, I see no difference in accuracy--though maybe I would if I were a better shot. Using premium match ammo would be a waste of money for me. If you're worried about what happens when the HV bullet drops below the sound barrier, you can forget it. Due to the relatively short barrel Length, HV ammo MV doesn't exceed the speed of sound in a pistol.

I dunno why Ruger uses such crappy extractors. The 10/22 is no better. In fact, I think it's the same extractor on both pistol and rifle.
same extractor, cheap stamped steel.
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Old 04-08-2021, 05:18 AM
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It is feeding fine and jamming on firing. I stripped it and cleaned it really well and the problem continued.

I'm trying to decide between ordering Volquartsen internals and sending the gun to Ruger to get reblued. Ruger will also replace the worn parts and test the function before sending it back.
please follow up if you get it reblued. I too have an inexpensive Mark II Gov Target needing a reblue and D/T for a red dot. The price, plus a refinish from Ruger is still a decent price.
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I don’t understand what “jamming on firing” means. It tells me nothing.

All this advice and we have no information. And, if I’m understanding correctly, the gun hadn’t even been cleaned. The f it needs rebuking God only knows how many rounds have been through it. These are not complicated guns and just about any problem is easy to dx and repair.

Has it been inspected closely? Burr on the chamber from dry firing? Even that is not a difficult repair.

Need more info.

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Old 04-08-2021, 04:22 PM
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I don’t understand what “jamming on firing” means. It tells me nothing.

All this advice and we have no information. And, if I’m understanding correctly, the gun hadn’t even been cleaned. The f it needs rebuking God only knows how many rounds have been through it. These are not complicated guns and just about any problem is easy to dx and repair.

Has it been inspected closely? Burr on the chamber from dry firing? Even that is not a difficult repair.

Need more info.
It has been thoroughly cleaned. It is stovepiping with CCI SV and Aguila SuperExtra on nearly every round. It won't even extract them cleanly.

Every other type of ammo I tried performed as expected except Sellier&Bellot subsonic, which cycled the action and functioned perfectly. I did not expect that.

I am trying to decide between sending it to ruger for inspection and reblue or popping in some Volquartsen parts.
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The Aguila Super Extra lead standard velocity.

I need these two ammo types to function due to the ammo shortage.
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If it is feeding fine and jamming on firing try a Volquartsen Exact Edge extractor.
Yes...the VQ extractor will likely solve your problem and they can purchased for less than $15.00 .
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Yes...the VQ extractor will likely solve your problem and they can purchased for less than $15.00 .
Agreed. Try the easy fix first.

Also, clean the chamber well with a new bore brush and plenty of Hoppes #9.
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I have a stainless MKII that would jam all the time as well when I first got it. It was a used gun, but in nice shape, just kinda dirty, like it had never been cleaned. I stripped it down and cleaned it very well. It would still jam, though not as much. I sent it in to Ruger and they replaced the extractor and some other parts and after that it has been flawless. They never charged me to fix it either.
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Try high velocity ammo, Thatís all standard velocity.
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Pickey mark II

If traditional deep cleaning dose not work try wrapping some strands of copper scrub pad (must be solid copper ) around a brass bore brush and work thru the chamber and barrel. I have used this method numerous times to clean out lead and other deposits. have also used this with cordless drill. You can find the solid copper scrub pads at wally world - used for scrubbing pots and pans. It won't hurt the barrel or chamber because its softer than steel but it works like a tornado on lead and powder fouling. good luck !
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Old 04-08-2021, 07:38 PM
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Don't send it to Ruger with any aftermarket parts. They will replace those, and probably not give them back!!

You might try a new extractor, I've seen guns stovepipe with a worn extractor.

But send it to Ruger before you do anything or buy any parts.
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Pull the extractor, take a file to it round / break the exterior edges an sharpen the interior edges.
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Too much trouble with that GTM, send it to me. I'll just clean it up and display it!
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