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Old 03-22-2021, 05:23 AM
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Oh, yeah , just buy a barrel. Have some fun. And dream somemore

The one on my bucket list is a Winchester 9417. Levers are a blast! But alas , my go to range doest allow object plinking either!although the day after deer season opens I always cheat and take a lever and plink the hundreds of shotgun shell hulls laying all over the range
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Old 03-23-2021, 03:58 AM
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Range Report
03-22-21 Oakfield CZ 457 hmr A17 17gr V-max 2650 fps, SR-1 Target @ 100 yards
1st range trip, new rifle and scope, initial sight-in one 10-shot series
plus (3) 10-shot series, total 40 consecutive shots, score 397-(27 X) including sight-in
best string 14 Xs, 200-(16X) for 20 consecutive shots (2nd & 3rd series), best 10-group 100-(9X)
4th series, wind kicking up, 8-10 mph gusts, variable, shifting directions, sometimes by 180 degrees
(tall wind flags at far sidess of range lanes were sometimes pointing opposite one another)
and last 10-shot group was 100-(5X), so called it a day
PS
our 100 yd Kongsbergs are generally set to score A25 targets (1" dia X-ring),
but on this day lane 12 was set for SR-1 target scoring (1.35" dia X-ring)
hence that 100-(9X) score on series #3 is "deceptive".. would be scored 100-(8X)
and aggregate would likewise be scored a bit less

screen shot images attached in next my post
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Old 03-23-2021, 04:01 AM
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Old 03-23-2021, 04:09 AM
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by all means, do choose according to your own preference, but (just in case you didn't know), easy as it is to swap rimfire barrels on such as CZs and Rugers and Sako Quads.. you do need to very carefully set headspace with a go/no-go gauge, ... not difficult, but it is NOT same as just screwing on a "takedown" rifle barrel .. shoot well, be well, and be safe !
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Old 03-23-2021, 04:21 AM
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solely to evaluate what a 10X score on a A22 target.. I ran a OnTarget TDS analysis image of series #3 (dropping shots #28 and #29 which is when breezy started getting weirdo).. I do believe this CZ will be throwing 10X scores once I have a little time getting used to that new rifle and new fixed power scope .. so this is what that target coulda' shouda' woulda' been, but wasn't.. (blame the sloppy shooter, not the wind, not the ammo) ... PS. note the Kongsberg scoring is for the SR-1 target as prior noted, hence the Kongsberg aggregate total score of 398.06, MoaX MoaY, Xm, and Ym are all for the total 40 shots, not just this #3 10-shot series
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Hmmmm Ninja, time to start your own thread.
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Hmmmm Ninja, time to start your own thread.
I can't even read through his posts. I get about 1/3 through each one and start to get a headache with all the jumbled up numbers, letters, and symbols......almost no periods makes trying to read them much better too......
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With that said, if I was just plinking (which I define as offhand shooting typically at steel or household objects) a Henry lever action would be a lot of fun so Iím still intrigued about doing that. 17hmr seems like the better round for trick plinking (e.g. knocking caps off bottles) so this random anomaly to my question is just about me daydreaming about this. The reality is that itís hard for me to really plink given my closest range rules.
Decision yet?, or, self procrastinating still. A friend wants to know.
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Decision yet?, or, self procrastinating still. A friend wants to know.
So I bought a CZ 457 Varmint MTR and took it out to the range for the first time this past Wednesday and it was awesome. The 17 HMR barrel from CZ arrived the same day, but the ammo hasn't arrived yet so I'm still using it the CZ in its original 22 LR format.

I came close to buying the Henry on Sunday, but the store only had one and it was pretty banged up. They didn't have anymore and weren't willing to discount it for the damage so I decided to pass. If I run across a new one in good shape it'd be hard for me to say no, but so far it's not happening. The lack of 17 HMR ammo these days is becoming a deterrent too. I wish they made a 17 HM2 version as that's much easier to find.
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Lithgow 101 vs. CZ 457 in 22LR

I couldn't decide whether to buy a Lithgow or CZ 487, so I bought.

Starting test the Lithgow first. See targets at my site

https://www.2a.email/post/my-lithgow...n-march-5-2021

https://www.2a.email/post/my-lithgow...-march-12-2021

I went to range April 5 too not post targets yet
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Old 04-08-2021, 12:51 PM
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I couldn't decide whether to buy a Lithgow or CZ 487, so I bought.

Starting test the Lithgow first. See targets at my site

https://www.2a.email/post/my-lithgow...n-march-5-2021

https://www.2a.email/post/my-lithgow...-march-12-2021

I went to range April 5 too not post targets yet
This is fantastic - thanks for sharing!

You are seeing what I see myself - a bipod is WAAAAAAAY better for grouping than any Caldwell product I've tried (and I've tried them all).

When you start experimenting with the CZ 457 Varmint MTR I'd recommend trying some Lapua Midas+ & Center-X; RWS R100; and SK Pistol Match Special and Rifle Match. Mine really loves those ammos. I hear it likes SK Standard Plus but I'm just getting some in the mail today and haven't tried that yet.

Eley Tenex is good, but was ranked below all of the ammo above in my testing. That said, you may see different results in your rifle and the Lithgow might love Tenex more than some of the others. My Ruger really loves Center-X & RWS R50 the most, but the CZ favors Midas+ more than Center-X but it doesn't do well with R50.

I'll be interested to hear your thoughts on the bolt of the CZ vs the Lithgow.

When I do my part, I'm consistently seeing groups at 0.6 MOA or less at both 50 & 100 yards with my CZ. I just switched to a Vortex Diamondback Tactical 6-24x50 FFP and that was a huge improvement over the Argos BTR Gen 2 6-24x50 MOA that I used my first time out with it. My best groups are in the 0.4 MOA range like you are seeing with the Lithgow so it seems they are fairly comparable.

I did adjust my CZ trigger to its minimum pull weight which is roughly 2.5 lbs.
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So I bought a CZ 457 Varmint MTR and took it out to the range for the first time this past Wednesday and it was awesome. The 17 HMR barrel from CZ arrived the same day, but the ammo hasn't arrived yet so I'm still using it the CZ in its original 22 LR format.
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