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Old 08-28-2018, 07:07 PM
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I was faced with the same question this past spring when I decided to buy my first Annie. I went with the MPR because it's prime use would be bench rest shooting.

They are amazing rifles and now I dream of a 1416 for off hand shooting!
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Old 08-28-2018, 08:44 PM
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Could you check your chamber by gently hand feeding a round into it.
If you find any resistance in the last 1/10th of an inch, that would bolster my case that MPR's have match chambers.

If it just slides right in, then it would not be a match chamber, and that would be different from the 2 that I've checked.

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Thank you Pump 22. I like to read all of the comments and I have been reading through all of the previous posts so I can learn more about these two rifles. I will post some pictures when I receive one. I am old and retired and my neck really hurts any more to shoot prone, but I still love shooting.

I can relate.....71 and hospitalized a couple of years ago with neck problems. But I can still shoot from the bench very well. We do what we can. I suspect that whatever choice you make, you will most likely be happy with it.
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Could you check your chamber by gently hand feeding a round into it.
If you find any resistance in the last 1/10th of an inch, that would bolster my case that MPR's have match chambers.

If it just slides right in, then it would not be a match chamber, and that would be different from the 2 that I've checked.

Thanks

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Checked with Eley Club, SK Std. and R-50. Resistance at the end on all of them. You can even see where the lands engrave the bullet.
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So that confirms it.

MPR's & 1903', and probably the 64 Benchrest have match chambers.

All of the regular 1416's do not.

Thanks for checking that out.
I appreciate it.

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I am the owner of a new 64 MPR as of two weeks ago.

I chose that model over the 1416 b/c of the added features. I don't know if there is any difference in inherit accuracy.

The adjustable butt plate, the ability to attach a front sight, the extended mag release and the higher cheek height was what helped me to pick the MPR. I'll be shooting from a bench so the 2 pound 1 ounce of added weight (over the 1614) will be a benefit.

So far the rifle has not had a chance to show me what it can do. That will take some time. I seriously doubt I will be disappointed.

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I have 64 mpr that I use thumb to push bolt into lands- but not as hard a push as barrels john Langley has chambered for me
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i like my 1416 thumbhole but this is about as good as i can do with it useing bipod and sandbag at 50 yd, nearly no wind. It always takes about 3 shots when i first get to the range. I hope you get a goodun!!
I would like the heavier gun for bench shooting.
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My 1416 must have a sorta tight chamber as bullets get tight at the last .1” and there are very light land scratches on the bullet.
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I have a 64 MPR, 2004 vintage. The bullet definitely engages the lands when chambered. You feel the resistance when closing the bolt and extracting an unfired round, it is easy to see the grooves engraved into the bullet. I have no experience with the 1416, so no comment. I can say, I'm very pleased with the accuracy of the 64, mine really likes S&K pistol match, that does not mean yours will or not but I tested a bunch of different brands and batch numbers to arrive at my conclusion.
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i like my 1416 thumb-hole but this is about as good as i can do with it using bi-pod and sandbag at 50 yd, nearly no wind.
Cuzz, Nothing wrong with that shooting me thinks.

A quick look down the lines shows 8/10, 8/10, 7/10, 3/10 (it happens) and a 7/10. Not sure what level of accuracy your looking for but I would recommend you trying using a front bag. Any bag will do, make one up, if needed use some wood to get the desired height.

Once you can easily see any rifling marks on the bullet head, then the round is engaging the lands/grooves. On some rifles the round is either behind, just touching, slightly engaged or more engaged.

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Old 08-09-2019, 08:15 PM
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Cuzz, I memory server me right you have a tuner on your rifle? I'm not a tuner guy but, I don't think it is set, looks like your shots are walking the clock
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