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Old 08-02-2019, 06:28 PM
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Anybody know who has this in stock? Like to try some.
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Old 08-03-2019, 10:27 AM
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Cabelas had some in KC for $8.99. Too much
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Old 08-03-2019, 10:37 AM
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Agree, thanks
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Old 08-22-2019, 02:12 PM
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Midsouth has it again. $6.55 a box.
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Old 08-22-2019, 09:43 PM
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I just purchased 10 boxes from 2a warehouse for$5.74 plus shipping came to around $75.00 beats anything around here
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Old 08-23-2019, 08:08 PM
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Thank you, some on the way.
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Old 08-30-2019, 02:34 PM
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Let us know how it shoots.
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Old 08-30-2019, 03:28 PM
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Will do, by Sunday I hope.
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Old 09-08-2019, 04:53 PM
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Update 17 m2 vnt

I finally got some time to put CCI 17 m2 vnt to the test. Very pleased with the accuracy results. Most 5 shot groups at 50 yds from a sand bag rest came in at about .5 inch. Some slightly smaller and a few stretched out to 5/8.
Interesting that they decided to nickel plate the shell cases, possibly to strengthen them to avoid splitting.
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Old 09-09-2019, 09:42 PM
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Thanks for letting ud know. Sounds like it's worth a try. But, gotta use up some of my stash first! BTW, what are you shooting?
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Old 09-10-2019, 10:16 AM
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I have a Kimber Classic Varmint that has always favored CCI branded ammo over everything else even Eley.
Im hoping for slightly better groups on a day with no wind.
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Old 09-27-2019, 07:55 PM
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OK. I've been following this thread and. recently bought 2 boxes of the VNT from SWFA. Great price and with other things I bought, the shipping was not bad. Yesterday I went to the range with my Anschutz 1502 to test it at 50 yds. First 5-shot group was good, maybe .5". Second 5-shot group not so good, 2 flyers out about 1.5". Third 5-shot group had 2 shots near the bullseye and 3 shots no where to be found. For a minute I thought I was shooting same hole groups. Walked to the target and found only 2 holes. So I shifted to a large 11"-14" target and aimed at the center bullseye. The first shot was near center and the next 4 were not even on paper. I began to suspect that my scope had developed a problem. I tried another group with no holes even close to the point of aim. Convinced that the scope had a problem, I returned to the range today with other tried and true ammo. Shot 6 different groups with 3 different ammos. I finished with a 10-shot group with the CCI VNT.....5 holes were acceptable and 5 were off the paper. It was NOT the scope. Something was seriously wrong with this batch of ammo. I have a second box but won't waste my time shooting it. I'll contact CCI to let them know. I've shot rimfires for 60+ years and have never had an experience like this. It is unlikely that I would ever buy more of this stuff.
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Have some update on my most current batch of vn t ammo. If my date code decipher is correct this batch came from may 19th of 2020. They were ordered in late June for an August 6 delivery to sportsman's warehouse. Picked them up on the 25th and have shot a few boxes in a few rifles. Did two orders of the 4 box limit and it looks like both orders are from the same lot.

The ammo is infuriating, have a box on the office desk with a scale and a magnifying glass. I'll go 3 or 4 shots in a cloverleaf than an inch flyer, in both a green mountain barrel and a Magnum research barrel. Shot them side by side with Hornady, the Hornady shot a better overall group but the vnt had clusters that were amazing and then would stack two perfectly together off the dot and high right, next would put 3 in a hole and stack two low and left. Swap over to Hornady and none would bug hole but the aggregate would go back down. The tips appear to be no where near as consistent as the Hornady, some are a bit bulged at the tip/hp junction and a few are longer tipped than the others. Going to attempt to weigh and sort them to see if the good ones can be isolated. Black tip cci shots a group the similar pattern of the Hornady but about a quarter to half inch bigger in diameter.
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Old 08-31-2020, 08:01 AM
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In a previous thread, I reported that sorting these rounds by bullet seating depth will improve accuracy by eliminating gross fliers. Matching the optimum bullet seating depth with your particular rifle/chamber combination will improve accuracy regardless of brand. I have found that lot-to-lot variations have more impact on accuracy than brand label. Generally, the VNT shot as well as the better lots of Hornady and CCI V-Max from my rifle. Sorting rounds by rim thickness and weight showed no improvement in accuracy. Sorting rounds by bullet seating depth showed improvement by eliminating the fliers.
"This is a re-post from my previous thread but may add to the OP's question.
This past summer I did some extensive testing of .17HM2 brands/lots with my Kimber K17 ProVarmint 20 inch barrel, at 50, 100, and 200 yards.I tested 2 lots of Eley, 4 lots of Hornady, and 5 lots of CCI including CCI-VNT. The results of group size measurements showed that the lot/batch number had more effect on group size than brand. Usually, a vertical flier would open up the group size, some worse than others. After eliminating the usual causes for vertical fliers, I went back to the sorting techniques published by Steve Boelter of ANA, and sorted the lots by bullet seating depth. Bullet seating depth varied by as much as 0.016" from lot-to-lot and even within the same lot. This is considerable especially with respect to the pressure curve variations in such a small cartridge. I modified my rimfire gauge to measure the ogive length from the base of the rim, and sorted 11 lots of Eley, Hornady, and CCI into consistent groups for bullet seating depth. Group sizes at 50 yards ranged from 0.377" to 1.301" depending on bullet seating depth. At 100 yards group sizes ranged from 1.158" to 3.332" again depending on bullet seating depth. At 200 yards the groups fell apart and ranged from 5.25" to 8.55" with most of the rounds key-holed in the target. Hornady brands are advertised at 2100fps, and a few of the Hornady rounds hit higher on the target and did not key-hole, but this was inconsistent among different lots and even within the same box.
CCI rounds rated at 2010fps all hit lower on the target and all key-holed, probably the result of going sub-sonic at around 180 yards. I concluded that the .17HM2 is only useful out to about 150 yards in my rifle. Variations in powder charge, primer mix and bullet seating depth all result in muzzle velocity variations that affect accuracy. For game hunting purposes, I keep my shots under 100 yards.
It would be nice if CCI would step up to improve quality control."

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Old 08-31-2020, 12:59 PM
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Thanks, I hadn't seen that post. I'll take a look at seating depth.
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