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Old 05-11-2017, 06:34 PM
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Beeman P17 and a Bit of Pellet Testing



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I did some pellet testing yesterday on a casual rest with my newish P17 using the same 5 pellets I use in my FAS 6004:

Results
JSB Match 7.33gr 1/2"
JSB Match Premium 7.33gr 3/4"
RWS Diablo Basic 7.0gr 9/16"
RWS R10 Match 7.0gr 1/2"
RWS R10 Match+ 7.0gr 13/16"

The P17 is wearing an Ultradot 30mm tube type red dot (no magnification). It was loosely set in a rifle rest on top of a sturdy photographic tripod for the test. If I had a proper lock-down rest I am confident the groups would have been better.

The biggest surpirse to me was the performance of this $35 pistol with every pellet. Incredible! It needs some help to improve the trigger and there are a few ergonomic things that would be nice.

The second biggest surprise was the poor comparative group produced by the R10 Match+ pellets. The standard R10 Match pellet is a premier performer and the R10+ is supposed to be a bit better. I don't see it my pistols. I'll be staying with the R10.

Annotated targets attached. Each is a standard 10M air pistol target set at 10 meters.












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Old 05-17-2017, 05:30 PM
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Try the RWS Diabolo Basic pellets. They shoot about as well at R10s and Meisterkugelns from my FWB 65 and 100 at half the cost.
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Old 05-17-2017, 07:16 PM
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My P17 shoots best with these pellets:

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Benjamin-...750ct/35233399

I have shot hundreds of different pellets including very expensive stuff, but these are the best so far!
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Old 05-17-2017, 09:23 PM
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Try the RWS Diabolo Basic pellets. They shoot about as well at R10s and Meisterkugelns from my FWB 65 and 100 at half the cost.
I use them and like them. I just forgot to include that target. See OP for updated post. I size them to 4.50 for use in my FAS 6004 and IZH 46M.
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Old 05-17-2017, 09:27 PM
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My P17 shoots best with these pellets:

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Benjamin-...750ct/35233399

I have shot hundreds of different pellets including very expensive stuff, but these are the best so far!
Would love to see some target results at 10 meters or so using these hollow points.
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Old 05-21-2017, 07:15 PM
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Airarms 8.44 Diabolo in 4.52 are the best I've found.
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Old 05-22-2017, 09:44 AM
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Airarms 8.44 Diabolo in 4.52 are the best I've found.
The price point indicates it should be a high quality pellet.

You're saying you like these pellets in your P17 at 10 meters best?
Tighter groups than I've shown here?

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Old 05-30-2017, 04:42 AM
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I just got one of these the other day. Years ago I had the original German version but this Chinese copy is pretty good for ~85% less money...



A little deburr & polish here and there, along with removing the auto-safety turned it into a neato short range plinker on the cheap. 90% bottle cap accurate with RWS Hobby at 10 yds.
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Old 05-31-2017, 08:12 AM
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I just got one of these the other day. Years ago I had the original German version but this Chinese copy is pretty good for ~85% less money...



A little deburr & polish here and there, along with removing the auto-safety turned it into a neato short range plinker on the cheap. 90% bottle cap accurate with RWS Hobby at 10 yds.
I'd call it a little more than a plinker but we won't mix symantics here.

What specifically did you do to tweak yours, if I may be nosy?
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Old 06-01-2017, 07:13 PM
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In addition to removing the spring/lever that make up the auto safety, I re-crowned the muzzle and polished the other end of the barrel so it doesn't chew up the breech seal. I also polished all of the mating surfaces on the trigger mechanism.

One thing that was easy and made a big difference in how the gun feels was to remove all of the sharp edges (X-Acto knife) where the grip & frame "clam-shell" together. The same treatment on top - edges of the scope rail and rear sight housing - make it a lot easier on the hand to close.

Very impressive gun, and not just because it's inexpensive.
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Old 06-01-2017, 08:05 PM
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The price point indicates it should be a high quality pellet.

You're saying you like these pellets in your P17 at 10 meters best?
Tighter groups than I've shown here?
Good question! I'll hopefully find the time this weekend to test some pellets and post up some targets. Most of my shooting has been plinking and just recently added a 2X scope and tried some targets. Although the 2X scope does give me a little bit of an advantage group size wise.
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Old 06-04-2017, 04:12 PM
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I got one of these for my son about 6/8 yrs ago. I have been very impressed with the accuracy. Wife left the back open and a mouse got in the house. I hit it in the eye in the hallway at 10-15ft. I take it, to my camper and shoot all evening.
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Old 06-12-2017, 02:25 PM
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P17

I am having so much fun with my P17.
The only thing that I did was remove the barrel to polish the bore.
I did add a rubber grip and a red dot type sight. I read where if you
mount your red dot as close to the muzzle as possible your dot looks
smaller. My P17 will give me dime size groups with JSB 7.33gr & 8.44gr and
also with the AA 10.3gr. But the tightest groups are with the JSB pellets.
I did try an H&N wadcutter 5.25gr and even though they gave me
over 500fps they wouldn't group for me.
Seems like you can't go wrong with JSB pellets.

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Old 06-12-2017, 03:31 PM
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They do deliver a lot of fun for the money. What range are you getting dime sized groups at?
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Old 06-12-2017, 05:28 PM
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10 yards is the distance that I have been using to see which pellet it likes.
I'm sure that younger eyes would get even smaller groups but for me I
am satisfied.
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