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Old 11-14-2011, 03:33 PM
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OK Kix; I'll bite.

1. Winchester 52B #BS2236 is a satin finish gun with forearm tensioning screw and the standard pencil barrel. It was purchased used in 2011 without a box. It has the B style stock. I am not sure when it was manufactured; but probably pretty early; like 93-94 or so.

2. Wichester 52B, #10NR800335 is a satin finish gun with forearm tensioning screw and the standard pencil barrel in the standard B stock. It was manufactured in 97 and I bought the gun new in box in 97 and an extra magazine for $515.00.

3. Winchester 52B, #10NP800279 is the Fajen maple fiddleback that has a completelly different stock configuration and checkering than the standard Winchester B or Browning C stocks. The Fajen has a much higher and more pronounced monte carlo and a fuller more rounded forearm. The finish is high gloss all the way!! The gun has a std. pencil barrel. The gun was made in 1998 and I bought it with box and papers in 2003. $500.00 well spent!

4. Browning 52B, #04829NZ496 is the C style satin finish stock (I think) without forearm tensioning screw. The gun has the std. pencil barrel. This one was made in 91 and I bought it with box and papers in 2011.

5. Winch. 52B, #100UT0402 is a Utah Centennial with forearm tensioning screw into a std. pencil barrel. The gun was bought as New Old Stock in 2011.

6. Wichester 52B Heavy Barrel: Working on buying it slowly. It is a satin finish gun that needs a better home; like my house!

By the way, Kix; you really need 3Dub to bird-dog you a Fajen!!!! He is "ever-watchful" for those maple goodies!
Hello VertFish!

Hey man, Thanks for the great information! Very detailed! Man! what a collection you must have! I LUST after a Fajen stocked version of this rifle! Hopefully someday. I just received a call from my FFL...my heavy barrel is here. I'll pick it up tomorrow Woo Hooo!
Thanks again for your detailed information! If we can get a lot of folks to participate in this we can start a spreadsheet for this data and maybe put a definitive time line together for these rifles. I have considered contacting the Miroku factory in Japan to see if they may be able to add some pieces to the puzzle, but I'm sure that they have other more pressing things to do after the tsunami disaster. Hopefully some day I will have a collection of re-issues as extensive as yours! I need a Utah Centennial and a Fajen stocked rifle to complete my grouping.

Come on folks! Let's get some more info like this!

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Old 11-14-2011, 03:55 PM
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Kix: Let us know how the HB shoots. My Dad owns the Utah gun and he used it yesterday in a match and almost beat me and my Cooper Custom! Dad likes his Win. Utah better than any of his other squirrel guns; including Cooper, Remington, Kimber and Anschutz!
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gewehrfreund,

Great looking rifle and I agree, I would call it a satin finish. Your rifle has especially nice wood, some better pictrues would be nice when you get a chance. What kind of scope is that? Is it a vintage Redfield? Also, I am assuming that your front sight is an aftermarket item, correct?

Thanks!

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I'll work on some better pictures, but poor ambient light this time of year and my limited skills may not result in much improvement.
The scope is indeed an old Redfield 6400 16X.

The front banded ramp sight came with the rifle along with a Lyman 48WH.

I still need to replace the weaver bases with some Buehler bases and rings that I have for this rifle. So many rifles, so little time. . . .

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Old 11-14-2011, 04:17 PM
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52 hb

VertFish,

I sure will friend! In fact, I plan to post a full range report on the HB. If it shoots anything like the three pencil barreled variants I have I will be pleased. They are all remarkably accurate, even approaching some of my bench rifles. These were truly exceptionally well made rifles and yes I think they will stand toe to toe with Coopers, Kimbers, Anschutz sporters, etc. at (currently) about half the price or less. I predict that the rifle buying public will catch on to this sooner or later and the price of these rifles will skyrocket. I saw it happen with another Miroku product I have...a Browning BSS side by side shotgun. When I bought it back in the mid 1980's they were all over the place for $500-$600. Now you can't touch an as new in the box example for less than about $1,750 or more. It just took the gun buying public a while to figure out that "Japan" on the barrel doesn't necessarily mean "Junk". Miroku makes a superb product as evidenced by the Browning Citori Shotgun and the Browning SA .22 rifle. There were not many of these rifles made...it will happen sooner or later.

gewehrfreund,

I wonder if your rifle had the iron sights when new or if they were added later??? I've never seen one with original irons.

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Kix,
I'm certain the sights were added later, but whoever had it done certainly had good taste.
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I'm certain the sights were added later, but whoever had it done certainly had good taste.
I agree!

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Old 11-14-2011, 05:41 PM
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Kix,

I figured the Brownings with the high level of contrast between the checkering and the rest of the stock were the glossy version. The difference between my two is very striking. Those diamonds on the bottom really jump out. I guess I'll have to take some pics.

Your #3 Winchester (SN 10NP800472) answers one question for me as to what came between the Fajens and the HBs. The lowest serial numbers in the 10NP series are the Fajens while the HB SNs that have been reported recently are in the 14XX to 19XX range.
Speaking of Zanders, I emailed them recently and was told there were 500 satin and 500 glossy HBs made.
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Old 11-14-2011, 06:01 PM
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The info I had was that the Brownings were made first in 1991 and 1992 using the serial number code, then the Winchesters were made from 1993 to 1998, also using the serial number code. I never knew about the BS code Winchesters, do you know the product code for the BS 52's or was BS the product order code ?.
I guess they must have been made in the 1992-1993 range right ?.
Any Idea how many BS Winchesters were made ?.
I put this together looking at pictures of box-ends:
Browning SN: 00306_NZ_496 Code: 49062 23614 24084
PB1 SN: BS3882 Code: 15222 48702 15222
PB2 SN: WBS0989 Code: 15222 48702 15222
Utah SN: 100_UT_0068 Code: 15223 48702 15223
PB3 SN: 10_NR8_02723 Code: 1506222
Fajen: SN: 10_NP8_00169 Code: 15224 525-031203
PB4 SN: 10_NP8_00472
HB SN: 10_NP8_0XXXX

PB stands for "Pencil Barrel". I don't have pics of box-ends for the HBs or for the WBS variety.

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Old 11-14-2011, 07:07 PM
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Great Info 3Dub, Thanks. I'm trying to compile all this info in an easy to follow format.
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Compiling Data

Thanks H.M. Pope!

It's a lot of seemingly confusing information, I'm glad so many have stepped forward with concrete data, Thanks to EVERYONE!!! It was my hope that we could finally put together all of the important information in one thread where we could organize it and put it into an easy to read table.

3Dub,

The product codes from the boxes is superb information! I'll look at my boxes and enter this data for my rifles when I get home from work!

Thanks again to everyone!

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Old 11-14-2011, 08:27 PM
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Thanks for starting the thread; it got me to clean up some of my files.

I tried to put my "table" in what I thought was chronological order but I really have no clue whether the BS... or the WBS... of the Winchesters came first.
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Old 11-14-2011, 09:44 PM
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1. Is your rifle a Winchester or Browning marked rifle?/ Winchester
2. What is your rifle's serial number?/ WBS0989
3. Does your rifle have a glossy or satin finished stock?/ Satin
4. Which variants do you have? (ie: pencil barrel, heavy barrel, Fajen stock, Utah Centennial, other ?)/ B Stock
5. When did you purchase your rifle and was the rifle new or used?/ Used but NIB from a family member.

Date of manufacture, unknown but kind of curious




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Old 11-14-2011, 10:04 PM
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I updated my table in post #38. Here are some box-ends:

Browning SN 0306


Win 52 "BS" SN 3882:


Utah SN 0010:


Win 52 "NR" (1997 edition) prefix SN 2723:


Fajen stock "NP" prefix (1998) SN 0169:

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Old 11-14-2011, 11:03 PM
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Box end codes

OK 3Dub,

Here are the box end codes from my three pencil barreled rifles. (My HB has no box)

#1. Browning SN 00489NZ496 Box end code No. 49062 23614 24084

#2. Winchester SN 10NP800479 Box end code No. 0 48702 15222

#3. Winchester SN 10NR802267 Box end code No. 1506222

This #3 rifle is the one with the super nice wood. I see no specific notation on the box that would signify upgrade wood unless the code 6222 means something different than the 5222 on my other Winchester marked rifle.

This thread is getting VERY interesting! Thanks for all the great information and photos folks!!

Kix

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Old 11-15-2011, 04:17 PM
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OK, Mine is a Winchester 52B Ser# 10NP801294 Satin - Barrel Tension Screw.
I bought it slightly used in '08 The box code is 1506222 barrel dia. is .550.
What can you tell me about this fine rifle. Thanks, Gary

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