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Old 11-10-2008, 11:05 AM
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I have been swayed by all this Commie gun talk and decided to take the plunge and buy a rifle from CDNN before all of them are gone. Once I called today the man asked if I wanted top mount or side mount sights. Other than the location of the rear sight what would be the differences in these two style guns? I may want to scope it in the future and would drill and tap the gun rather than use the grooved at the rear receiver set up. The side mount gun is $100.00 less than the top mount. Thanks for any help in advance!
Frank

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Old 11-10-2008, 11:10 AM
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I have the Ural with the Side Rail mount and the Ural USSR sights that came with it in one package for $299 and shipping from cdnn:
http://i478.photobucket.com/albums/r...8/PA170019.jpg
http://i478.photobucket.com/albums/r...8/PA170016.jpg
http://i478.photobucket.com/albums/r...8/PA190054.jpg
http://i478.photobucket.com/albums/r...8/PA190044.jpg
http://i478.photobucket.com/albums/r...8/PA190049.jpg
http://i478.photobucket.com/albums/r...8/PA190048.jpg

I will not put a scope on this. It shoots great with the irons and has brought back the memories of shooting a fine Match Rifle with irons. I am 50 and my eyes are not as sharp as years ago but this set up is perfect.
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Old 11-10-2008, 11:15 AM
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Thanks for your help and glad to hear you are happy with your rifle!

Frank
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Old 11-10-2008, 11:48 AM
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DD90,
They're actually variations of two different guns, the older Ural and the newer CM-2, though the latter differs still from the current CM-2 being sold NIB. Most people use the excellent target sights that accompany the gun but at least one person has had theirs drilled and tapped. You may want to search the subject or simply skim the forum a bit. IIRC, There's a NIB CM-2 with shorter barrel that has a grooved receiver fore and aft of the ejection port.

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Old 11-10-2008, 12:32 PM
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Here's the basic difference. The first picture is of the top-mount Ural that has an 11mm rail for the rear sights. The rail makes mounting a scope a very simple matter.


The next picture is of a Vostok CM-2 that has been D&T'd for number 75 Weaver bases. It normally would use the side-mount rear sights. There seems to be two variations (at least) of the side-mount Ural; one with a round top receiver and one with a flat top. Either can be D&T'd. I'm showing the CM-2 because it's similar to the round top Ural and I don't have a side-mount Ural to show you.


Let me add a picture of the Izhmash CM-2 top-mount rear sight which is almost identical to the Ural top-mount sight. The Ural sight has an adjustable diopter whereas the CM-2 sight has single size diopters that can be swapped out.

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Old 11-10-2008, 02:15 PM
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Thanks for all the help! I placed my order and now I get to wait. As soon as it comes in I will post what I ended up with.

Frank
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Old 11-10-2008, 03:37 PM
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All the top mounted CM-2 that CDNN has only have the rail on the rear half of the receiver. Bob
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Old 11-10-2008, 03:57 PM
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for the price and quality of what you get

you'll probably be happy i have the vostok cm2 and the ural2
both really well stocks aren't in the best of shape but heck it's
winter and i can sand to my heart's content.
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Old 11-10-2008, 06:19 PM
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you'll probably be happy i have the vostok cm2 and the ural2
both really well stocks aren't in the best of shape but heck it's
winter and i can sand to my heart's content.
I've stripped one of my Vostok CM-2 stocks using EZ-Off oven cleaner. The wood (Artic birch?) seems to be quite dense. There are places around the grip, the borders of the cheek piece and the fore end tip that may have been stained and the dark color won't come out. I even did a second treatment of those areas using "Strip-Ezee" without effect. Maybe some of it will come out with sanding.
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Old 11-10-2008, 10:14 PM
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mine's dark in the same places

didn't know if it was stain or just ground in grime. i won't have time to start
on them till december but i'll try some of the easy off. thanks.
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Old 11-10-2008, 10:30 PM
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didn't know if it was stain or just ground in grime. i won't have time to start
on them till december but i'll try some of the easy off. thanks.
Tom, spray it on thick all over and allow it to work at least 20 minutes or more. Then spray it off with a garden hose. I hang mine up with a piece of wire so I don't have to touch it at all. It takes a few days to dry completely but everything should be gone..... except maybe really deep stain. Be careful as Eze-Off id caustic.
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