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Old 10-07-2019, 10:55 PM
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My Dad gave me his old 64' Winchester model 70 ranger... She's a push feed..
It's never failed to feed.. has never failed to bring home a deer.. or anything else you'd care to shoot with an ought-six...
Has also been a 1.5 .. sometimes less , at 100
Doesn't seem to prefer any one brand or bullet weight.. just consistently shoots pretty decent.
Just wanted to say.. for an all around center fire cartridge.. ya just can't hardly beat a good rifle chamberd in the great 30-06
We cannot remember.. (us boys) ... Just how many deer the old girl has felled.
It's been a bunch over the last 50+ years.
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Old 10-08-2019, 12:18 AM
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Sounds great BW sir...what happen that is not a Marlin LOL but it is priceless for all the great memories that rifle has given your family...the stories it could tell. I am glad you got it and it did not get sent down the road.

Thanks for sharing.

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Old 10-08-2019, 12:30 AM
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My Dad gave me his old 64' Winchester model 70 ranger... ....
I'll give you a shoulder shrug and a "meh" on the cartridge but that Model 70 is a wonderful rifle and in this case made even more so by being a physical reminder in the here and now of someone close to you and the memories associated with it. Makes it very special indeed.
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Old 10-08-2019, 12:47 AM
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The old Ď06 is hard to beat.

It is probably the best all around cartridge out there.

The post 64 Winchester rifles are fine, they just didnít have the money and labor intensive time put into them. I have a couple and there is nothing wrong with them. They donít have the collector value that the pre 64s have, but for a shooter it doesnít matter. I donít think most people will be hunting dangerous game where the controlled round feed will be necessary.
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Old 10-08-2019, 12:59 AM
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I donít think most people will be hunting dangerous game where the controlled round feed will be necessary.
You may not know that the models currently being produced have the controlled round feed in addition to very nice triggers.
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Old 10-08-2019, 01:41 PM
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You may not know that the models currently being produced have the controlled round feed in addition to very nice triggers.
Yes they do. I like the ones built by FN in the USA. Those days are now gone.

If given a choice, I will buy the bolt action rifle with Controlled Round Feed. That doesn’t mean that the push fees don’t work. I just think the Mauser design is better for dangerous game. For accuracy it really doesn’t matter.

Look how many Remington 700s are out there. I have a few. I’m not selling them but they are also not my preference.

For those who can’t handle the recoil of an ‘06 in a bolt action rifle, there are good options such as the POF Revolution in .308. It doesn’t kick bad at all and it is under 7 pounds.
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Old 10-08-2019, 02:00 PM
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Yes they do. I like the ones built by FN in the USA. Those days are now gone.
I got two of them before the move to Portugal.
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I have fired thousands of rounds through various push feed Remington 700s with out a glitch. A few years ago I bought a new controlled round feed Model 70; it would not feed nor function until I did considerable work on it. Needing a cr feed for dangerous game is malarkey.
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I have fired thousands of rounds through various push feed Remington 700s with out a glitch. A few years ago I bought a new controlled round feed Model 70; it would not feed nor function until I did considerable work on it. Needing a cr feed for dangerous game is malarkey.
Most of the PHs I met in East Africa used double rifles for that very reason.

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Controlled Round Feed was designed by Mauser for reliability. It is more reliable than Push Feed. Military Bolt Action rifles needed it.
This is patently untrue. Peter Paul Mauser invented the non-rotating claw extractor because of the poor materials used in military cartridges around the turn of the 20th century. When military rifles would get dirty and/or heat up, there was a problem with extractors tearing through the rim of the cartridge, leaving a stuck case in the chamber, rendering the rifle useless for the rest of the battle. The fact that the round was captured by the extractor during the loading stroke was a very pleasing by-product of the extractor design, but it was not the primary purpose.

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Most of the PHs I met in East Africa used double rifles for that very reason.



This is patently untrue. Peter Paul Mauser invented the non-rotating claw extractor because of the poor materials used in military cartridges around the turn of the 20th century. When military rifles would get dirty and/or heat up, there was a problem with extractors tearing through the rim of the cartridge, leaving a stuck case in the chamber, rendering the rifle useless for the rest of the battle. The fact that the round was captured by the extractor during the loading stroke was a very pleasing by-product of the extractor design, but it was not the primary purpose.
So you are saying that he invented it for better reliability.

Iím glad we agree.
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Old 10-08-2019, 01:04 AM
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My Dad gave me his old 64' Winchester model 70 ranger... ....
I'll give you a shoulder shrug and a "meh" on the cartridge <img src="https://www.rimfirecentral.com/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Smilie" class="inlineimg" /> but that Model 70 is a wonderful rifle and in this case made even more so by being a physical reminder in the here and now of someone close to you and the memories associated with it. Makes it very special indeed.

A meh ? On the cartridge ...lol...ok I'll bite,. ..why ?
Many moons ago..
My late uncle Walter..had one of them LEE loaders.. you used a "hammer" to reload the ammo.
In this particular rifle..
Shot fantastically..
We hunted every thing with it.. from mice to elk.
( I've shot bullfrogs with it)
In rural Missouri.. in the 60s and 70s..
Every single ma and Pa grocery store had a box of ought-six..
And thurty-thurty..
And .300 Savage. They worked.. we preferred the 06.. simply because we also had a few M1GARANDs..

Yes.. my pop's in his 80s now..
I cherish the time I get to spend with him.
The story's he can tell..
I wish he'd wright a book.
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Old 10-10-2019, 07:29 PM
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Yes.. my pop's in his 80s now..
I cherish the time I get to spend with him.
The story's he can tell..
I wish he'd wright a book.
My dad in in his 80's too. We go shooting together most Sundays. Spend the time with your dad, as much as you can.

Also, the .30-06 is a fine choice for a cartridge.
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Old 10-08-2019, 01:08 AM
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The old ‘06 is hard to beat.

It is probably the best all around cartridge out there.

The post 64 Winchester rifles are fine, they just didn’t have the money and labor intensive time put into them. I have a couple and there is nothing wrong with them. They don’t have the collector value that the pre 64s have, but for a shooter it doesn’t matter. I don’t think most people will be hunting dangerous game where the controlled round feed will be necessary.
One of my brothers has a pre-64 model 70
Fancy fancy fancy..
Beautiful.
But ? It doesn't shoot any better than this old push-feed.
And none of us has ever had a failure with this post-64
Heck ? I'd take it to Africa!
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Old 10-08-2019, 01:11 AM
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I don’t think most people will be hunting dangerous game where the controlled round feed will be necessary.
You may not know that the models currently being produced have the controlled round feed in addition to very nice triggers.

I don't know ?
Controlled round feeding ?
Be nice I'm sure of that..
I think this particular rifle is fine.
It's never missed a beat.. that we know of.
And like you said.. memories..
Lot's and lot's..of memories.
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Old 10-08-2019, 01:14 AM
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Sounds great BW sir...what happen that is not a Marlin <img src="https://www.rimfirecentral.com/forums/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Roll Eyes (Sarcastic)" class="inlineimg" /> LOL but it is priceless for all the great memories that rifle has given your family...the stories it could tell. I am glad you got it and it did not get sent down the road. <img src="https://www.rimfirecentral.com/forums/images/smilies/sthumb.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Blue Thumb" class="inlineimg" />

Thanks for sharing. <img src="https://www.rimfirecentral.com/forums/images/smilies/gun4.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Gun4" class="inlineimg" />

Signalman <img src="https://www.rimfirecentral.com/forums/images/smilies/mad.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Mad" class="inlineimg" /><img src="https://www.rimfirecentral.com/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Smilie" class="inlineimg" /><img src="https://www.rimfirecentral.com/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Big Grin" class="inlineimg" />

Thanks signalman .. appreciate the kind words.
Yep.. this ol' girl gonna stay here with me.
But I'll bet you a dollar...here in about a month..
Pop will call... Bring my rifle down...lol
( I hope so)
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