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Old 04-22-2018, 11:38 AM
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I didnt like that rugers LVT was 20", so i built my own with a carbine, a factory ruger sporter stock off of ebay and a GM 17" HT barrel. It has a que headspaced bolt, kidd firing pin, extractor and trigger kit. it has shot enough high .teens and low .20s at 50y to know its not a fluke. so you dont necessarily have to spend a ton of $ to get a 1/2 MOA rifle. I have under $600 in that one with everything minus glass. It would have been less if i didnt include the $80 stock my wife bought for me.

trivette will headspace bolts for $20. you dont have to have an aftermarket stock, a VQ hammer kit is $35, not the greatest trigger but works fine, one could be built for right around $400 including the price of a bottom basement wood stock carbine. if i were doing that with a GMHT i would remove the barrel band and just relieve the channel.
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Old 04-24-2018, 11:53 AM
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Funny but true.

"The most sound piece of advise I can give...if you want to chase sub .50 accuracy in a 10/22. Be prepared to go down a deep, emotional, money sucking rabbit hole."

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That's priceless ! I'm laughing too much to write... .. ... ... ........ .. Ok ok... . ...

Yes.. I think I'm at the edge of the rabbit hole right now... Just want to get down to 1 and 1/4 at 50 yards... I see the Green Mountain barrels and the and the gunsmith services down in the hole but for now I'm gona try using a stronger scope.. I guess that's why they call it a hole....after a while... You fall in.

Do you think a 3-9/ 40 Nikon is adequate for 50 yards ? . In other words many have stated their group size tendancy but.. What kind of magnification are most of us using ? Maybe that is an important factor... Atleast that is where the Range Officer is pointing me...

BTW last week at the range was to windy to draw any conclusions.
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Old 04-24-2018, 12:37 PM
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Do you think a 3-9/ 40 Nikon is adequate for 50 yards ? . In other words many have stated their group size tendancy but.. What kind of magnification are most of us using ? Maybe that is an important factor... Atleast that is where the Range Officer is pointing me...

BTW last week at the range was to windy to draw any conclusions.
For the type of accuracy you are looking for, I'd choose a 4-16X scope. This will still be low enough to hunt with, and the 16X will definitely be easier to shoot good groups with. Dedicated benchrest shooters will use a 36X scope at 50 yards!

Thing is, the better your scope and rest, the easier it will be to find the limits of your gun... as you'll KNOW you were right on the target, but the bullets missed, anyway! lol THIS is where you learn the limits of your gun, want better equipment, and begin to fall into that rabbit hole.

But, you can get a lot of 'bang for your buck' by sending the entire thing (minus stock) to Randy at CPC. If you want to get carried away, send it to him with a nice, aftermarket barrel... but he can do very well, even with the stock one, as long as it was made after 2008 or so... as they tend to be better than the older ones.

Good Luck!
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I really need a min. of 10x, more would be better. I know that years ago I liked my 20x @ 50yd.
And a quality table, rest and bags
And quality ammo
And lots (LOTS) of practice
And maybe, 1st, a headspaced bolt after the above
All before buying a different barrel.
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Old 04-24-2018, 01:28 PM
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And maybe, 1st, a headspaced bolt after the above
All before buying a different barrel.
If you piece it all together one thing at a time, you spend a FORTUNE.

Bolt... $80
Barrel... $140
Trigger... $100
Etc... $$$

Then, once you assemble the Lego blocks, you hope everything works together, and the guns runs without jamming, and is accurate.

If you send the gun to Randy at CPC, he does way more than is listed above, makes sure everything works well together, and is accurate.

What he does:
Squares the barrel to the receiver. (many barrels lean left, or are not square with the receiver)
Smooth interior or receiver.
Does accuracy job to the barrel.
-recrown
-lap the bore
-rechamber (more accurate than stock chamber, and doesn't jam like many aftermarket barrels do after 100 shots or so)
Bolt
-recontour
-pins the firing pin
-adjust headspace
-applies jewel finish
-adds custom fit, hardened, sharp extractor ($10 upgrade fee)
Trigger
-does full trigger job with no creep, overtravel screw, crisp 2.25 lb break
Oversize trigger assembly pins that do not fall out
Nylon buffer


He does EVERYYHING above for $200. Best money you'll ever spend on one of these guns!

This is what I can think of off the top of my head. It's the biggest bargain in gunsmithing. You can send him a gun that just doesn't work right, and you'll get one back that will be one of your favorite shooters. It will run reliably, and be more accurate.

I had installed an aftermarket barrel on a 10/22 that shot like crap, and it did shoot better, but started jamming after 100 rounds. Sent it to CPC, and it was magically cured. Shot even better, and didn't jam anymore. Trigger was also MUCH improved. Ended up sending ALL SEVEN of my 10/22's there. lol Highly recommended.

For more details, go to his site...
http://www.ct-precision.com/ruger10-22.html

Good Luck!

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Old 04-24-2018, 05:29 PM
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Tune up what I got instead of replacing parts.

I do like the idea of tuning up what I got instead of replacing parts... I kind of did that with the Brimstone trigger tune; instead of replacing... The trigger is now just awesome... Turned out to be a great move over replacement.

I've always said that I would rather play a 1K piano that was tuned well that a 20k piano what was out of tune...

I also learned from my audiophile hobby.. That good sound is about MATCHING wires speakers amplifiers etc.... finding what works together.. I know a great hi-end amplifier company - Leben - that openly says that they don't always use the most expensive parts in their equipment... They use what ever will sound the best...even if inexpensive.. So more of -best sounding in their system parts.. Not a ... best parts... kind of approach... Interestingly.. most audio speaker parts are really quite inexpensive... but put together and they charge thousands for speakers; and they do sound great... Other upstart companies try the "only the best parts" approach and their stuff sounds awful.

So I really like the concept of using CPC.. I will look into that... Makes alot of sense.

Thank you!
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