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Old 02-16-2018, 10:55 AM
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I own or have owned what I refer to as "late"B Sporters(after s/n 7XXXX) clear up to 84498B. None have had drilled/tapped receivers. That is not saying Winchester would not have done it as a special order, but I would certainly be skeptical. Quite honestly, I have seen more early B sporters d/t'd than late ones. I have never yet seen a d/t'd pre C Sporter that I was certain was factory d/t'd. I'm sure they our there, but unless there is some provenance supporting origins of holes, I would assume they are aftermarket.
One thing you might want to do is check hole patter against a factory C Sporter, and compare with yours to see if it has exactly same dimensions.
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Thank you! Anyone know those dimensions off-hand??
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Old 02-16-2018, 10:58 AM
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I assume there is another number hiding under the "X", so your rifle was s/n'd on June 6, 1949.
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Old 02-16-2018, 11:10 AM
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Thank you! Anyone know those dimensions off-hand??
Front hole is .253" from front edge of receiver, next hole back is .960" from front hole. Front hole in rear bridge is 3.280" from front hole in ring(3.533" from front edge of receiver), then .504" to rear hole in rear bridge.
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I assume there is another number hiding under the "X", so your rifle was s/n'd on June 6, 1949.
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Old 02-16-2018, 12:51 PM
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Front hole is .253" from front edge of receiver, next hole back is .960" from front hole. Front hole in rear bridge is 3.280" from front hole in ring(3.533" from front edge of receiver), then .504" to rear hole in rear bridge.
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Old 02-16-2018, 01:59 PM
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Please let me know what you find.
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Old 02-16-2018, 04:22 PM
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Front hole is .253" from front edge of receiver, next hole back is .960" from front hole. Front hole in rear bridge is 3.280" from front hole in ring(3.533" from front edge of receiver), then .504" to rear hole in rear bridge.
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Those are the measurements on my 52B. I would rate it at 96-98%. Although D&T'd........ it appears there has never been any scope related hardware mounted on it.............. it is pristine, including screwheads.

Thanks again for your help!
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Old 02-16-2018, 06:14 PM
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Well, that is a plus, but still really no guarantee it was done at factory. The factory drawing for the receiver was changed to show the drilling/tapping of sporters in 1953, which is about 3 years prior to your rifle's manufacture. There is a note on drawing that states " Not included on M/52 style "C" target receivers or any style "B" receivers".
I have tried to attach a portion of drawing stating as such, but not sure it will be readable. These are very old drawings, and do not copy well. As I mentioned earlier, I am very skeptical of any receiver prior to the C's that is D/T'd. I'm afraid w/o having rifle in hand to inspect, I cannot offer much more of an opinion. Even then, w/o provenance, it is just an opinion at best.
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Well, that is a plus, but still really no guarantee it was done at factory. The factory drawing for the receiver was changed to show the drilling/tapping of sporters in 1953, which is about 3 years prior to your rifle's manufacture. There is a note on drawing that states " Not included on M/52 style "C" target receivers or any style "B" receivers".
I have tried to attach a portion of drawing stating as such, but not sure it will be readable. These are very old drawings, and do not copy well. As I mentioned earlier, I am very skeptical of any receiver prior to the C's that is D/T'd. I'm afraid w/o having rifle in hand to inspect, I cannot offer much more of an opinion. Even then, w/o provenance, it is just an opinion at best.
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Appreciate the feedback! I know with Winchester it is hit or miss. Not really looking for verification. Plan on keeping the gun and will go to one of my two boys. I fight the same battle on some of their other models as well.
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I don't know if this is the place for this I have a pre-a s/n: 17931
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Winchester 52B bull barrel.

I just bought this Winchester 52B I measured the barrel muzzle and it is a bull barrel, It Has the polished aluminum hand stops and sling loop. I'd like to know if this was a rare model and if anybody can give me an exact date that it was made.
SN 44752B

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Old 03-16-2018, 07:10 PM
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Receiver on your rifle was serial numbered in June, 1937. I think you will find the barrel date stamped on bottom of barrel is "37" as well. Based on pictures of your rifle posted on GB, it does not appear to be a bull barrel model, but a heavy target. It is a very early B model, but not what I would consider a rare model. The aluminum handstop is not original to rifle, nor is the custom grip cap. I would verify dimensions on barrel. The heavy target will measure 1" dia at receiver, while the bull will measure 1-1/8". Both will be 7/8" at muzzle, and 28" long. It sure look's like a heavy target to me.
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Thank you Steve and yes I did buy it off the gun broker. I may have paid a little bit too much money.but I don't own any model 52's. And I received it yesterday. the rifle is beautiful condition. I also own a Winchester model 75. Steve can you tell me with this rifle would have the rear sight on it?

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Old 03-17-2018, 09:30 AM
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I believe the only sight offered on the early "flat top" 52's like yours was the Winchester 82A sight. A Lyman 48J would also work, but I do not think it would have been available from factory on that particular rifle at that particular time. Yours is a a very early B model with Marksman stock.
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Old 03-29-2018, 10:15 PM
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Seewin, is there any way of determining what configuration a 52 was built in from the sn #?
I have 65665 B that was bought as a barreled action with a non-Win. bbl. & I might want to try a restoration if possible.
If not, it's going to be made up into a sweet LW sporter for my grandson.
He's not going to get my 52 D Target quite yet...

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