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Old 04-18-2010, 01:10 PM
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I propose to build a reference thread containing a list of combinations that work that can be used as a starting point when scoping a rifle.
Very nice contribution, tt5!

I have on my CZ-452 American .22LR the same setup I have on my CZ-452 Varmint .22LR. The "general" use I describe is targets and hunting (rats & rabbits)... don't know if you want to change that "general" to match your other entries or just leave it.

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I've mined a little data mined from recent threads and here's a preliminary table in picture form. I'd prefer to put the data in the forum as a text table, but haven't figured out how to format a table here.
The "code" tag might work but I still find it hard to get the spacing right. Thanks very much for the effort into what I expect will be a very helpful and useful sticky.
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Old 04-18-2010, 01:57 PM
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Cz 452 varmit 17hmr Bkl257 200 series rings centerpiont 4x16x40AO bolt clears no problem about a 1/4 inch of room rings seat the 11mm dovetail perfictly
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Just got a scope for my 452 Special/Military Trainer .22LR. Leupold 2x7x28 VX1
Rimfire. Old style Leupold medium rinngmounts which appear to fit better thatn the new ones. Fits behind the rear sight. At 2x one can see a bit of the front sight but it doesn't distract me.
Set up for small game/plinking/informal target shooting.
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Old 04-18-2010, 02:45 PM
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Anyone else?

There seems to be a pattern of bigger/ higher magnification scopes on the "American" style stocks and smaller ones on the hogbacks.

Going through old threads, I'm finding lots of advice, but not a lot of specific examples of gun/scope/ring combinations.

Corrections would be appreciated too if I misinterpreted posts or just screwed up.
I beleive since the American has no iron sights the scope lenghth doesn't really matter. With the iron sighted model one needs a schorter scope to fit behind the rear sight.

Jee,
You have the worst case of CZitis I have seen.
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Old 04-18-2010, 03:59 PM
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Thumbs up Heres mine

I have a 452 special started with a centerpoint 4-16x40AO, BKL 257H rings, had
to remove the rear sight to get the fit. Changed the scope to a Millet 6-24x44AO
and used the same rings, the scope is long enough so that I was able to reinstall
the rear sight. no clearance problems. Doug da357mag

Your right Nick, JEE does have it bad! da

EDIT Use targets, scope is in front of rear sight. possible hunting later.

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There seems to be a pattern of bigger/ higher magnification scopes on the "American" style stocks and smaller ones on the hogbacks.
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I beleive since the American has no iron sights the scope lenghth doesn't really matter. With the iron sighted model one needs a schorter scope to fit behind the rear sight.
My take is that most of the American (and Varmint) rifles with big scopes are being shot from the bench while the hogback styles see more walkaround time.
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I'll play:

1. 455 American
2. Weaver V-24 6-24x42
3. BKL 257 Standard
4. BKL does not allow shim under the mount because of the open base. (I had been thinking of using the pop can shim under this scope because it is 24x.)
5. Plenty high. Tons of clearance, both bolt and barrel.
6. Mostly target, but utility.

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Jee,
You have the worst case of CZitis I have seen.
lol...

Yeah... I get hives during the week in anticipation of weekend shooting, but they quickly go away if I pick a CZ and cycle the bolt a few times.
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Old 04-18-2010, 10:17 PM
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updated again.

Can anyone post a picture of an FS/trainer/lux/Ulux with a 3-9x32 or 33? I'd like to compare it to the 2-7x28's on hogbacks that are posted here and there in the forum.

9 fingers and Lloyd S. have the sightron on FS's. Anyone have the Leupold, Clearidge, or Weaver?
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Old 04-18-2010, 10:34 PM
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453 Varmint .22LR (11mm)
Weaver V-16
BKL 257 standard

Plenty of clearance at both bolt handle and Objective.
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I corrected my previous post. I meant to say B-Square Air gun/22 rings, not Barska. It was early and I hadn't had my coffee yet. Sorry. And thanks for doing this. I have saved the chart for reference.
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Please respond with:
  1. Rifle model ultra lux, lux/trainer, FS, American, Varmint, silhouette, scout, style, 513, etc.
  2. Scope brand and model
  3. Ring brand and model
  4. Any tweaks to gun, scope, ring necessary (remove tangent sight, etc) special positioning, add-on rails, etc?
  5. Any especially good features or problems with the combination?
  6. Primary use of the rifle (hunting, target, bench target, plink, etc).
A few on this forum have these rings, but you don't see them too often, so i'll add my info...

1) 452 American, 22lr
2) Bushnell Trophy
3) CZ Kozap (Thanks Denny!)
4) Rings are meant for 11mm rail, but fit 3/8" rail (poorly)
5) Problems:
a. Initially installed as is (pictured)...have since shimmed clamp for better fit
b. Top half of rings snap over scope tube, suggest checking edges and deburring (scratched my scope)
c. Replaced clamp screws (unnecessary)
6) Hunt & plink

Initial install



Re-install


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Old 04-20-2010, 01:56 PM
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Great thread. Here are some ring and scope combos that I don’t see on your chart. These combos are not typical but they function fine and provide “options” for others to consider.

1) 452 American 16”
2) Center Point 4-16X40 AO, Mil-Dot (Model# CPA416AORG)
3) CZ 452 rings (steel)
4) No tweaks
5) The rings were not made for the 3/8 dovetail so the clamps don’t fit perfectly. Although, the base of the rings sit right on top of the dovetail with no space in between, for a steady mount. The rings function fine with no movement or loosening. The Center Point scope was purchased at Walmart for about $69. See my link for more info and pics:
https://www.rimfirecentral.com/forums...d.php?t=332817
6) Plinking, Informal target and paper punching



1) 452 Scout
2) Weaver Shotgun Scope 4x32, Duplex Reticle (Model # WE849421 (Product replaced SN849421) (From Natchez)
3) Weaver 1” Medium .22 & Airgun rings (aluminum alloy) (Model # 49192)
4) Scope was mounted behind rear sight and sits nice and low. No need to remove front hood because it is not visible from the scope.
5) The rings have a slight gap between the ring bases and top of the dovetail, but the clamps fit flush. The rings function fine with no movement or loosening. The Weaver rings were purchased from Walmart for about $8. See my link for more info and pics:
https://www.rimfirecentral.com/forums...d.php?t=294643
6) Plinking, Informal target, paper punching and nice camping/backpacking gun (total weight with scope and rings is 5lbs 10oz).
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452 Varmint ___ 11mm ___ Bushnell Trophy 6-18x40mm ___ CZ rings (19001) ___ target ___ objective ~3mm clearance

453 Varmint ___ 11mm ___ Sightron SII 6-24x42 _________ CZ rings (19001) ___ target ___ objective ~2mm clearance
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another update.
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